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1 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | mark d seyler | 187876 | ||
Hi WOS, I don’t think such a debate would serve to edify the body within this forum. When the sealing happens, in my opinion, does not dictate the nature of that sealing. We appear to disagree over the course this discussion has taken, but that need not occupy undue forum space. Concerning your notion of eternal, I would suggest we consider the ramifications. If expressing something that happens in an “eternal” way means that it “describes all ages”, are you suggesting that since we have received eternal life, that we will have lived from eternity past? I would think that only God does that. You asked, “According to 2 Timothy 1:9, who saved us and when?” 2Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, God has saved us. But this verse does not tell us when we are saved. “Before the world began” as a clause relates to God’s grace being given. But you and I, we have different presuppositions, I believe. You believe, unless I am mistaken, that God’s grace is only given to the redeemed. I believe that God’s grace is given to all, but refused by many. We won’t settle our differences with this passage, unfortunately. Rather than get into this debate at this time, I’ll just close with this: Romans 8:28-29 (28) And we have known that to those loving God all things do work together for good, to those who are called according to purpose; (29) because whom He did foreknow, He also did fore-appoint, conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be first-born among many brethren; 2Co 5:17 so that if any one is in Christ -- he is a new creature; Eph 1:3 Blessed is the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who did bless us in every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, Love in Christ, Mark |
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2 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | Wild Olive Shoot | 187879 | ||
Hey Mark, I agree. I don’t believe we could come to a mutual understanding on the subject and our debate would benefit nobody. But, just so you know where I stand, I hope it is in God’s grace, and that grace is freely dispensed according to His good pleasure. Ephesians 1:5,6: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. 2Thessalonians 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: Eph 4:3–7: 3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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3 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | mark d seyler | 187880 | ||
Hi WOS, Thank you for your kind reply! Have a great weekend! Love in Christ, Mark |
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