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1 | sheila, why pray for a lesser gift? | Gal 3:28 | Searcher56 | 122358 | ||
Scripture ... Matt 13:10-23, Acts 2:16-21 (Joel 2:28-32); 1 Cor 12:11, 27-30 ... sheila, You said ... I am 41 yr old woman, I was filled with the Holy Spirit when I was 19yrs old, speaking in Tongues. I pray in Tongues "spirit" in the shower, driving down the road in the car. Quietly to myself during worship at my church, It builds up my spirit see Acts 2 amp AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,' God says, 'THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL MANKIND; AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY,AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS. - You quoted only Acts 2:17. Verse 18 tells us it is prophecy. There is nothing about speaking in the context (Acts 2:16-21) or what Peter was referring to (Joel 2:28-32). Moreover, I think this is for Israel, since that was the audience both times. - So when you are driving, is your focus on God or the road ... or is your attention split? You said ... It is so real. Anytime the enemy can cause doubt or fear he will, he is a liar and deceiver. The Holy Spirit is an inity, that needs recognition. - The Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity. Satan has been trying to cause doubt; and he did it in the Corinthian church. It is why Paul had to correct them (1 Cor 12-14), including their use of babbling, instead of speaking a foreign language. Last sunday we had a message in "Holy Spirit" tongues given by a woman she spoke and then gave the interpetation, we had about 4-6 people came foward to be born again. It was all in perfect accord, very orderly. You said ... I challenge those who so courious about the Holy Spirit and the GIFT pray ask God for this GIFT, if you are serious he will provide. - Tongues is a lesser gift and we should desire greater gifts (1 Cor 12:27-30). Note is doesn't say pray. Moreover, the Holy Spirit gives the gifts as he determines (1 Cor 12:11). You said ... I believe this is in accordance with the scripture in Matthew 13:11. - How are the secrets of heaven - the answers to the parables (Matt 13:10-23), have to do with speaking in tongues? Searcher |
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2 | sheila, why pray for a lesser gift? | Gal 3:28 | prazn | 122410 | ||
Those of you who question the necessity or usefulness of speaking in tongues, do you do so out of a spirit of love and with an interest in learning more about the gift? Or, are you only interested in defending your position (i.e., being right). What harm can come from speaking in tongues? The Apostle Paul spoke in tongues. I am grateful for the gifts (whether lesser or greater) that the Holy Spirit has graciously bestowed upon me. Please don't look down your nose at others who have the gift, just because you don't. Please don't thumb your nose at a gift that you neither understand or desire. peace, prazn |
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3 | sheila, why pray for a lesser gift? | Gal 3:28 | Searcher56 | 122412 | ||
prazn, it is out of a spirit of love that I correct the misuse of Scripture, no matter the topic. Yes, there is a necessity or usefulness of speaking in tongues. It is for when unbelievers who do not know the language of the area. Then there is a need to speak to them in their native language. There were few schools where one could learn a foriegn language. Then, so the rest of the church could understand, there was need for interpetation (1 Cor 14:22-28). We should not look down on the person with any gift (1 Cor 12:12-26). Nor should one elevate a gift (1 Cor 12:27-31) ... an error by some of those who push tongues. The Apostle Paul spoke in many different tongues ... I'd say each town he went to, where they spoke a different language. Searcher |
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4 | sheila, why pray for a lesser gift? | Gal 3:28 | Morant61 | 122418 | ||
Greetings Searcher! My dear friend, one must also remember that many Christians of good conscience share a different view on tongues than you do. For instance, I do not share your view that tongues were always an understood language by the audience. For instance, 1 Cor. 14:2 clearly states that men do not understand. Nor do I share your view that tongues is a 'lesser' gift. Paul undoubtedly was correcting the abuse of this gift in worship. But, you was not making the point that tongues was 'less' than other gifts. Tongues is not the only gift mentioned at the end of chapter 12. Apostles, prophets, teachers, miracles, healings, and tongues are mentioned, then Pauls commands that they earnestly desire the greatest gifts. I don't see this as an indication that 'tongues' is least, but that all the gifts are needed. In fact, Paul specifically lists 'tongues' as one part of orderly worship in chapter 14. Further, he commands us not to forbid anyone from speaking in tongues. Having said this my friend, there is undoubtedly many errors concerning this teaching. Few follow Paul's instructions regarding interpretation and limited number of tongues in a service! :-) Few heed his words that not all speak in tongues! But, let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | sheila, why pray for a lesser gift? | Gal 3:28 | Searcher56 | 122421 | ||
Scripture ... 1 Cor 12:28 And God has appointed in the church, FIRST apostles, SECOND prophets, THIRD teachers, THEN miracles, THEN gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues. 29 All are not apostles, are they? All are not prophets, are they? All are not teachers, are they? All are not workers of miracles, are they? 30 All do not have gifts of healings, do they? All do not speak with tongues, do they? All do not interpret, do they? 31 But earnestly desire the greater gifts. And I show you a still more excellent way. Tim, I believe there are errors on both extremes on this issue. That is why we need to look carefully at Scripture, first ... as well as the historical context. If tongues is not a lesser gift, why is it listed last or next to last (even in verses 8-10), with the words FIRST, SECOND, THIRD, THEN and another THEN. I think you are aware of the pagan temple's influence of babbling and calling it tongues. Searcher |
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6 | sheila, why pray for a lesser gift? | Gal 3:28 | Morant61 | 122448 | ||
Greetings Searcher! The context of 1 Cor. 12 is exactly why I have a problem with calling tongues a 'lesser' gift. :-) Paul stresses that all 'parts' of the body are needed, and all the various ministries of the body are needed as well. I believe the same thing applies to spiritual gifts. If Paul meant to imply that tongues was least, or next to least, was he also saying that Apostles are more 'important' than teachers? Wouldn't that violate the whole message of chapter 12? As for your last point my friend, there are many things in life that can either be imitated or abused, but it does not necessarily follow from that fact that each of these things is wrong or bad. Paul never forbade anyone from speaking in tongues, he simply gave them instruction about the 'proper' way to exercise this gift in a worship service. In fact, he specifically commanded us not to forbid anyone from speaking in tongues. My primary concern with this issue is that we not demonize a genuine gift of the Spirit because some abuse it or over emphasis it. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | sheila, why pray for a lesser gift? | Gal 3:28 | Searcher56 | 122462 | ||
Scripture ... 1 Cor 14:27-28 If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God. While verse 39 says we should not forbid speaking in tongues, these verses are part of the restrictions ... the proper way, as you say. I guess we will disagree about which gifts are greater. I do know all the gifts are needed ... no gift is given to all and I also think no one has all the gifts. |
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8 | sheila, why pray for a lesser gift? | Gal 3:28 | Morant61 | 122467 | ||
Greetings Searcher! One way that my views on this topic has changed over the years is that I no longer see the gifts as a 'possession'. I tend to view them more as weapons in a rack. The Holy Spirit gives us whatever one we happen to need at that particular time. So, I do believe that one person 'could' manifest all the gifts if the need arose. Well, I have to get to bed my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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