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1 | Examine yourselves! | 2 Cor 13:5 | Brent Douglass | 7563 | ||
Further-more from 1 John -- recognition of the Father-Son relationship within the Godhead and acknowledgement of Jesus as Christ and Saviour, born of God. (1 Jn 4:14f; 5:1) We have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world. Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God.... Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him. (See also John 7:17.) Much of the rest of 1 John repeats the same concepts in other (or even exactly the same) words. God was clearly driving the points home through the apostle. |
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2 | Examine yourselves! | 2 Cor 13:5 | Ray | 7602 | ||
Hi Brent Douglass, I perceive that you and I love John. 1John 1:3b"...and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ. These things we write, so that our joy may be made complete." 2Corinthians 13:14, "...and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all." Isn't it great that we can know if we pass the test of 2Cor 13:5!! Compare with 1John 5:19, "We know that we are of *God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one." 1John 4:4, "You are from *God, little children, and have overcome them..." Gal.4:14, Paul writes, "...but you receive me as an angel of *God..." Romans 8:19,"...For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God." 1John 2:5,"...but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of *God is perfected. By this we know that we are in Him." 1John 2:13, "...because you know *Him who has been from the beginning." 1John 2:24, "As for you, let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the *Father." 1John 2:28, "Now, little children, abide in Him, so that when He appears, we may have confidence and not shrink away from Him in shame at *His coming." 1John 3:2, "We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see *Him just as He is." 1John 3:7, "Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as *He is righteous;..." 1John 3:23, "This is *His commandment..." 1John 3:24b, "We know by this that *He abides in us, by the spirit which He has given us. (Small s my interpretation.) 1John 4:1, "...but test the spirits..." 1John 4:2, "By this you know the spirit of (God); every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God;...you are from *God, little children..." 1John 4:6, "We are from God; he who knows (God) listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error."...*God is love." 1John 5:20, "And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know (Him) who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true *God and eternal life." If nobody gets the point of our words at least the words of the Bible are being printed. We can examine ourselves and "know of what spirit we are." |
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3 | Examine yourselves! | 2 Cor 13:5 | Brent Douglass | 7612 | ||
Thanks for your response Ray. I think I see your point, and I trust that we can indeed examine ourselves and "know of what Spirit we are." ;-) | ||||||
4 | Examine yourselves! | 2 Cor 13:5 | Ray | 16825 | ||
Hi Brent, Can I get any comment from you about my "Small "s" or not?" question on 1 John 3:24? | ||||||
5 | Examine yourselves! | 2 Cor 13:5 | Brent Douglass | 16902 | ||
To be honest, I'm not particularly concerned about the need to use capital letters in pronouns referring to God or in indirect references to the Spirit that are not using the name "Holy Spirit" within them, since this is largely a matter of current language usage rather than any reference whatsoever to either the original Greek and Hebrew texts or standard English requirements. However, if someone uses them at all, he or she should be consistent in their usage whenever possible. That said, I typically use such capitalization myself. I think either version (capitalized or not) is a potentially valid reading of 1 Jn 3:24 (for versions that use capitalization), depending on whether the usage of Spirit/spirit is referring to consideration 1) or 2) below. I lean toward the NAS's view of capitalizing it as a reference to the Holy Spirit. I also agree with your use of the small "s" in your question, since you were asking a question that left room for at least 2 answers, depending on the considerations below. 1) We can be either of the Holy Spirit of God or another spirit set against God. This was the chosen reference of my response. The question would be framed with a small "s" as you did, since there is uncertainty whether the spirit is from God or not until AFTER the examination. However, my response was written with the idea that I believe we are both "in Christ" and therefore "of the Spirit of God;" thus I reflected back your question with the word "Spirit" capitalized simply for encouragement and humor. 2)This could refer to spirits not directly related to God or demonic forces, but simply the kind of attitude in which we act in conversing on the forum (a spirit of pleasant brotherhood, a spirit of contention, etc.). Again, your use of the lowercase "s" would be the only appropriate usage in this case as well. Hope this answers your question as to my opinion of your usage. |
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6 | Examine yourselves! | 2 Cor 13:5 | Ray | 16908 | ||
Hi Brent, I appreciate your encouragement and your good humor. I wonder if in regard to this thread that you also with me see the relationship between 1 John 4:24 and 2Corinthians 13:5 here. If He abides in us---know that Jesus Christ is in you. The test is what kind of spirit we show. We believe, we love one another, keep His commandments, and we abide in Him---because of the power of God directed toward us. Thank you for your spirit of pleasant brotherhood. Later, Ray |
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