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1 | New Ideas? | 2 Cor 11:4 | lionheart | 156408 | ||
Victor, Tell me something,what is your definition of new ideas? First of all, Gods Word is narrow in it's focus it says what it means and means what it says. We mold our theology around Gods Word that means we conform our believing to to His Word not the other way around. 1 Peter 1:20,21 2 Timothy 2:15. These are foundational scriptures for all who handle the Word of God,So when you say narrow focus,you betcha. In Christ, lionheart |
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2 | New Ideas? | 2 Cor 11:4 | Victor529 | 156470 | ||
There are many different interpretations of the Bible among well meaning Christians. That is the primary reasons why there are so many different denominations: doctrine. What I mean by adverse to "new ideas" is when a man is inducted into a certain denomination he is not capable of ever adjusting his theological outlook. A challenge to his biblical interpretations is perceived as an attack on the views of the biblical authors and God. What a man hears first in his own denomination should not necessarily be his fixed theology for life, nor is it guaranteed to be correct. When I was at Bible College my denomination held to believers baptism, i.e infant baptism was seen as unbiblical. Fair enough. After studying at college I was able to fully articulate the case for both sides, and to know the strengths and weaknesses of each side's argument. I am particularly frustrated that 'certain people' are so closed-minded, only their doctrine is "sound", other views are wrong. No argument, no biblical texts will sway them. They heard it right first time in their first denomination. You write: 'We mold our theology around Gods Word that means we conform our believing to to His Word...' but do you? If I argued for baptismal regeneration and cite Acts 2:38 as teaching 'our sins are washed away in the baptismal tank' watch how scripture is made to conform to the pre-existing theology of my antagonist. The best case in the world can be made and yet no one ever seems capable of adjusting their positions an iota. Now, I appreciate that the NASB is a Bible produced by conservative evangelicals for a specific readership and most people here would be within a fairly small segment of the theological spectrum. However, I am not seeing any of the veterans here giving an inch, or learning anything new. |
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3 | New Ideas? | 2 Cor 11:4 | mark d seyler | 156471 | ||
Hi Victor, The way you describe how you suppose I/we have been taught sounds more like brainwashing to me. Could you maybe give me/us a little credit for actually taking an active role to search out the meaning of the Scriptures? I'd like to suggest a different reason for the many divisions between Christians. Granted, the arguments and schism cite doctrine, or style, but this is what Jesus said: Joh 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:" The glory that the Father gave to Jesus, Jesus gives to us, that we may be one, as the Father and the Son are One. Joh 17:1 "These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:" Jesus said "the hour is come; glorify thy Son". It was the hour His whole life was centered around, it was His time to lay down His life. It is when we can lay down our lives that we can share the life, and the glory, of the Son. This is what will unite us. Now, as one who has been painted with your broad brush, I ask you: Would you back up your assertions with scripture? This is what the Bible says about divisions in the church, as we would say "denomonations": 1 Cor 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? 4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? I Cor 11 tells us the same thing. There are divisions, and heresies (false doctrine), because when they come together, each is just trying to feed their own flesh. Victor, I am here to both learn and teach. I have explored a number of passages and doctrines with my brothers and sisters on this forum, and have grown appreciably. Sometimes my statements have been challenged, and I discover an error, and learn. Sometimes I challenge other's statements, and discover an error, and grow. Sometimes we just discover together, and watch the wonder unfold. Sometimes I just watch other people's threads develope, and learn, and grow. If you doubt this, then take the time to peruse the archives, and get to know us a little better. Now I ask you: Is the truth broad or narrow? Only one way is right. Broad is the way to destruction. I hope to get narrower each day, as I learn the word more fully. Can you contribute to our sharing and learning in the Word? Or would you rather just make groundless blanket statements defining people that you don't know, and write us off as some "theological backwater", stagnating in our "close-mindednes". We would love to include you in our quest for understanding. Present sound Biblical exegesis. Without that I would be foolish to discard what I have learned so far. If you merely wish to criticize, well, frankly, I have heard enough to last a lifetime. Love in Christ, Mark |
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