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1 | Beware "Another" | 2 Cor 11:4 | DocTrinsograce | 156335 | ||
Pope Benedict warned the faithful Roman Catholics who gathered before him today in Cologne against a kind of "consumer product" kind of religion. He stated, "Help people to discover the true star which points out the way to us: Jesus Christ." Earlier in his visit the Pope addressed Muslim leaders and also visited a synagogue. The Lord Jesus Christ does not lead the way to any human institution. The universal church consists of all those who have been or shall be gathered under Christ. In the sense of the work accomplished by the Holy Spirit and God's grace in a believer, the church cannot be seen with human eyes. (Hebrews 12:23; Colossians 1:18; Ephesians 1:10, 22, 23; Ephesians 5:23, 27, 32) Anyone, anywhere professing faith through the gospel of Christ, and who walks in obedience to His commands, and holds to sound Scriptural doctrine, are the saints (1 Corinthians 1:2; Acts 11:26; Romans 1:7; Ephesians 1:20-22). Only Christ Himself is the head of this church (Colossians 1:18; Matthew 28:18-20; Ephesians 4:11, 12; 2 Thessalonians 2:2-9). Paul repeatedly warns us about men preaching "another Christ," "another Spirit," or "another Gospel." This is why we must always be very discerning. When people speak of Jesus Christ, we must ask, "Which Christ do you mean?" When people speak of the Gospel, we must ask, "Which Gospel do you mean?" Many strange bed fellows are made when we do not properly define our terms. We must be cautious to not receive any other Christ than the one of the Scriptures. We must be cautious to not believe any other Gospel than the one of the Scriptures. "The gospel of Satan is not a system of revolutionary principles, nor yet a program of anarchy. It does not promote strife and war, but aims at peace and unity. It seeks not to set the mother against her daughter nor the father against his son, but fosters the fraternal spirit whereby the human race is regarded as one great 'brotherhood.' It does not seek to drag down the natural man, but to improve and uplift him. It advocates education and cultivation and appeals to 'the best that is within us.' It aims to make this world such a comfortable and congenial habitat that Christ's absence from it will not be felt and God will not be needed. It endeavors to occupy man so much with this world that he has no time or inclination to think of the world to come. It propagates the principles of self-sacrifice, charity and benevolence, and teaches us to live for the good of others, and to be kind to all. It appeals strongly to the carnal mind and is popular with the masses, be cause it ignores the solemn facts that by nature man is a fallen creature, alienated from the life of God, and dead in trespasses and sins, and that his only hope lies in being born again." --A. W. Pink "As with any true New Testament church, its validity as a true church approved of God, does not nor or ever did rest on it name or upon a succession of churches, but on its adherence to the principles of God's Word." --Cooper Abrams |
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2 | Beware "Another" | 2 Cor 11:4 | Just Read Mark | 156415 | ||
I dont understand why everyone is responding to Victors tone, and not his message. Hes new to the forum, so Id give him some leeway. Please, someone, deal with the issue he raised. Having read your post, Doc, I continue to find it troubling. Instead of expressing any explicit criticism, you just place a description of the Pope in the context of Another Christ and Another Gospel, and the Gospel of Satan. Fact is, the greatest number of Christians in the world are Catholic. And Catholics participate in this forum. So when the Pope points to Christ, we should celebrate it. The true church is not the entire catholic church, or any institution... but God uses that institution mightily. We would do well to heed the Popes criticism about consumer-faith, which is certainly relevant to the North American church. JRM |
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3 | Beware "Another" | 2 Cor 11:4 | mark d seyler | 156418 | ||
Hi JRM, I appreciate your concern for Victor, we should all be very careful for our brothers. I just re-read Doc's post that started this thread, and I do have a couple of thought regarding it. One is that I wonder if perhaps Doc may have misinterpreted the Pope's remarks. "The true star which points out the way to us: Jesus Christ" could be understood as "Jesus shows us the way", or as "Jesus shows the way leads to us", and by what else Doc said, I suspect he thought the latter. If the Pope meant the former, this could, and I do not say would, change Doc's comments. If the latter is correct, the Pope is singling out his congregation as the only church, and I don't think that is right. But that aside, I do not believe it to be wrong to challange anyone to consider the Biblical basis of their chosen fellowship. I have nothing against any person who believes in Christ, under any banner, but I have also seen unbiblical teaching with the Catholic church. I have known as many apostate "Catholics" as "Baptists" (sorry Hank!), as "Apostolics" (Sorry Mary!), as Non-Dems (that's me). I am talking about the ones I know. It can be disturbing when someone challanges and says to me "Be careful, make sure you're not going to the Counterfeit Church!", but if you are, you need to know. If you are not, it will pass the test. And truth be told, I might agree (I really don't actually know) that the greatest number of proffessing(sp.) Christians are Catholics, but I also believe that the vast majority of proffessing Christians aren't Christians at all. And that is even more disturbing. But let's say that Doc was way off base (I don't think he was, myself), how should we approach him? Gal 6:1 "Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted." I hope this helps. Love in Christ, Mark |
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4 | Beware "Another" | 2 Cor 11:4 | Just Read Mark | 156421 | ||
Thanks, Mark. I feel your response is very clear, and generous. |
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