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1 | Thank the Catholics for "The Passion"? | 1 Cor 3:22 | Aixen7z4 | 114612 | ||
That is a good question. I would like it if denominations did not exist, but they do. It does seem to be the state of the church today. I would not like to make an issue of this. If you checked below this thread you will find that many other denominations are considered in other threads. I am simply trying to identify the good contributions coming from various corners of the church. In this case I am looking at the possibility that the Catholic church, through Mel Gibson, has made a positive contribution. It seems obvious that he brings a certain orientation to the subject because of his denominational affiliation. Some of us are trying to promote mutual acceptance and appreciation. Please help the cause by talking about whether the movie is a positive contribution. I agree with you that division in the church is not a good thing. Since it seems unlikely we can get rid of it, I would like to concentrate on making the best of the situation. |
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2 | Thank the Catholics for "The Passion"? | 1 Cor 3:22 | Hank | 114615 | ||
Aixen: Speaking of Mel Gibson and his production, "The Passion of the Christ," you say: "It seems obvious that he brings a certain orientation to the subject because of his denominational affiliation." Obvious to whom, and specifically what orientation, does he bring? Will you please be more specific? Cite examples from the film that illustrate your point. --Hank | ||||||
3 | Thank the Catholics for "The Passion"? | 1 Cor 3:22 | Aixen7z4 | 114627 | ||
Brother Hank I will fail this test. I cannot cite examples from the movie, because I have not seen it. I do have a promo, put out by Icon Distribution, and I think it is very informative, so much so I have linked it as a new item of interest, to my site, at http://hishows.org. I have looked at many clips and read many reviews. Yet my statement is not a critique of the movie. I understand from Gibson himself that he approached the project from a Catholic viewpoint. He said he was heavily influenced to produce the film by a book, The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ, by Anne Catherine Emmerich, an Augustinian nun, a Catholic. Gibson, interviewed by the Herald Sun in Australia, was asked if Protestants are denied eternal salvation. "There is no salvation for those outside the (Catholic) church," Gibson replied. "I believe it."' See http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4224452/ He elaborated: “Put it this way. My wife is a saint. She’s a much better person than I am. Honestly. She’s, like, Episcopalian, Church of England. She prays, she believes in God, she knows Jesus, she believes in that stuff. And it’s just not fair if she doesn’t make it, she’s better than I am. But that is a pronouncement from the chair. I go with it.” Those statements seem to portray a loyal Roman Catholic. They did not tell me much about his personal faith in Christ. What was his motivation in making the film? ‘Gibson also said in the interview that he was nearly suicidal before he made his controversial film. “I got to a very desperate place. Very desperate. Kind of jump-out-of-a-window kind of desperate,” he said in the interview. “And I didn’t want to hang around here, but I didn’t want to check out. The other side was kind of scary. And I don’t like heights, anyway. But when you get to that point where you don’t want to live, and you don’t want to die, it’s a desperate, horrible place to be. And I just hit my knees. And I had to use ‘The Passion of the Christ’ to heal my wounds.”’ It seems that Mr. Gibson took to the project as therapy for his psychological ailment rather than as an evangelical project. He may well have experienced some catharsis from making it, but it seems likely that his spiritual need is still unmet. Some people have reported that physical healings and other miracles happened during the production, but that is not what Jesus suffered and died for, I think that many on this forum would agree. Jesus did not die to help us to feel better, but to put away our sins. My heart's desire and prayer to God for Gibson is that he would be saved. But that is not my purpose in writing here. I do believe that his giving us this movie is a good thing. He may well affect the world, because the Catholic church affected him. |
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