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1 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | 1 Cor 1:1 | jlhetrick | 178332 | ||
glory2, I fear you have made this a personal issue and/or chosen not to respond to my point. In the meantime you insinuated that I like to argue, do not do what Jesus commands, and use my energy for theological debate. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Moving on, I will respond as briefly as possible. Dealing first with the passage in Galatians let me just say; It is my belief that this passage is not at all disregarding the individuality of persons (God saves individuals not groups). Nor is it disregarding the distinct differences between races and nationalities; nor the distinct differences and roles/expectations of males and females. Instead, it is declaring the work of faith; that faith is not resistant to race, ethnicity, nationality, male, or female. I pray that you will consider the passage further and discern this for yourself. Regarding your thoughts on the 1Timothy passage I have some comments as well. You wrote: "In this passage the word "woman" in the greek ..(Look it up for your self) also means "wife" and in context it is saying ...do not usurp your husbands authority." Lets look closer friend. A closer look always requires the consideration of context. We start with your assumption that the proper translation for the Greek word "gune" found in this passage is "wife". How did you arrive at that? It's true that the word "can" be translated "wife". But it also can be translated "woman" and "women". Since it is obvious that neither of us are Greek scholars, how do we handle this? A first approach might be to look at how the true scholars have translated the word. In every bible translation I referred to (eight in all) the scholars translated the word to "woman" and "women". Never "wife". Why do you think they did that? Might I suggest "context". In other words, are the unmarried women in the church of 1Tim. liberated from the rest of the commands in this passage? Are they at liberty to adorn themselves in a way that is not modest; or to present boastfully proud and intoxicated while sporting themselves in broided hair, gold, pearls and other costly array? With this question in mind, it becomes much less likely that the passage was/is speaking to married women only. Am I absolutely sure of this? No. but the context certainly makes it more likely. It also rules out the possibility that you are absolutely right. Whick, I might add, is the very reason this very issue (and passage) has been debated for decades to include on this forum. I hope I was more to the point and less offensive. More importantly, I hope we have demonstrated how responsible debate can contribute to serious bible study. An important position to take is to never declare what the Scriptures don't; and never take a position that is or appears to be in opposition to the Scriptures as they are plainly presented. God bless, Jeff |
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2 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | 1 Cor 1:1 | glory2godnow | 178374 | ||
Jeff The question is context. How right you are. Especially within the Holy Spirits leading. Our Teacher. Paul warns that the carnal mind is emnity with God. What do you suppose carnal is? May I suggest reasonings and logical thought. The wonderful thing about having the Teacher, Comforter within is that you don't have to be a scholar! Praise the Lord He sent the greater One to dwell within!! That is the salvation the phophets longed for! gune goo-nay Probably from the base of G1096; a woman; specifically a wife: wife, woman. what is interesting about that passage is it is singular not plural. Fits with context of a wife. I think the Lord would rather have one Katherine Kuhlman than a thousand scholars. If God can not use men to reach out to the lost and demonstrate His love, power, healing and deliverence He will use whoever is willing. I personally am all for men doing it. In fact I think the church has been demasculinized. Paul said, I do not come in excellency of speech but in demonstration and power of the Holy Ghost. (paraphrased) A powerless gospel is not the gospel. The church was never meant to be run by a bunch of women and old women. Partially because women have the tendency to be busybodies (Titus)and because they are more prone to deception. Jeff you know as well as I do that satan knows scripture. He misquoted it to Eve and taunted Jesus with scripture. It is therefore only our reliance on the One who is smarter than the devil and all of his twistings of scripture, that will keep us safe and guide us into all truth. In that vein may His precious Holy Spirit lead you Jeff, not into mans wisdom but God's. |
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3 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | 1 Cor 1:1 | DocTrinsograce | 178380 | ||
Dear Glory, You wrote, "What do you suppose carnal is? May I suggest reasonings and logical thought. The wonderful thing about having the Teacher, Comforter within is that you don't have to be a scholar!" So you are saying that God does not encourage thought, nor does He condone logic? In Him, Doc |
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4 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | 1 Cor 1:1 | glory2godnow | 178409 | ||
Doc I didn't say it. Paul did. Rom 8:6 Now the mind of the flesh (which is sense and reason without the Holy Spirit) is death (death that comprises all the miseries arising from sin, both here and hereafter). But the mind of the (Holy) Spirit is life and (soul) peace (both now and forever). Rom 8:7 (That is) because the mind of the flesh (with its carnal thoughts and purposes) is hostile to God, for it does not submit itself to God's Law; indeed it cannot. Rom 8:8 So then those who are living the life of the flesh (catering to the appetites and impulses of their carnal nature) cannot please or satisfy God, or be acceptable to Him. Rom 8:9 But you are not living the life of the flesh, you are living the life of the Spirit, if the Holy Spirit of God really dwells within you (directs and controls you). But if anyone does not possess the Holy Spirit of Christ, he is none of His (he does not belong to Christ, is not truly a child of God). |
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5 | Women Preachers? Yes or No? | 1 Cor 1:1 | DocTrinsograce | 178494 | ||
Dear Glory, So you construe this form of "sense and reason" to be human cognitive function? I believe in a former post you called it "reasoning and logical thought." So do you believe that all human "reasoning and logical thought" is in error? In Him, Doc |
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