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1 | Why is death God's enemy? | 1 Cor 15:25 | Immanuelsown | 207506 | ||
FlintyJoe, Three times in this thread, people have posted, "It was not in God's plan, (purpose) for us to die." If we believe God is Omnipotent, Sovereign, then we also have to acknowledge, He did know, it was in his plan, purposed for mankind. On the grounds, as it is regularly posted, "Before the foundations of the world, God predestined who would be in Christ Eph. 1:4,5 In Him Imm |
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2 | Why is death God's enemy? | 1 Cor 15:25 | DocTrinsograce | 207516 | ||
Even without flinty's heterodoxy, the statement "It was not in God's plan..." is fundamentally problematic. Our God didn't start out with one plan, then when it fell apart, say "Oh my! My plan was spoiled! Now I'll have to come up with another plan." God is sovereign... His eternal purpose is not a matter of "Plan B." | ||||||
3 | Why is death God's enemy? | 1 Cor 15:25 | bowler | 207520 | ||
Doc I actually have reviewed what I said and agree with your statement here that to say what God had foreknowledge of and allowed to happen "was not in God's plan" is problematic. I also strongly agree that there was never a plan "B". But somewhere here there needs to be a disticntion between what God allows to happen, as in God allows evil and death, but is not the author of them (is God the author of death?) - and that God foreknows "what" will happen. I agree God is sovereign, not one thing happens to a sparrow without His consent - which point I did make, that nothing happens without His allowing it to happen. I think this blunders into the area of God fore-ordaining things to happen, if I am correct, which is a "problematic" area altogether anyway. If you would care to comment on that aspect some illumination might be had here? 1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, He is the one who catches the wise in their craftiness. - in regards to worldly knowledge in the face of the mind and purpose of God. blessings abound, bowler |
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4 | Why is death God's enemy? | 1 Cor 15:25 | DocTrinsograce | 207522 | ||
Yes, in theology it is an area of study called theodicy. Here is how the old Baptist divines stated it: "God hath decreed in Himself, from all eternity, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely and unchangeably, all things, whatsoever comes to pass; yet so as thereby is God neither the author of sin nor hath fellowship with any therein; nor is violence offered to the will of the creature, nor yet is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established; in which appears His wisdom in disposing all things, and power and faithfulness in accomplishing his decree. (Isaiah 46:10; Ephesians 1:11; Hebrews 6:17; Romans 9:15, 18; James 1:13; 1 John 1:5; Acts 4:27, 28; John 19:11; Numbers 23:19; Ephesians 1:3-5)" --London Baptist Confession of Faith 1689 (chapter 3, paragraph 1) The phrase "second causes" relates to ideas from the philosophical area of inquiry called causality. Theodicy is pretty heady stuff, but there's an article by Dr. W. Gary Crampton that's fairly easy to read: http://gospelpedlar.com/articles/God/god_evil.html In Him, Doc |
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5 | Why is death God's enemy? | 1 Cor 15:25 | FlintyJoe | 207573 | ||
Did you give yourself the nickname "Doc" after receiving a degree in theology? "Theodicy is pretty heady stuff." You're probably correct if you mean most won't have a clue what they're reading. After all, Paul taught that unless you were a lawyer like him, you could not be one of the elect. "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children." | ||||||
6 | Why is death God's enemy? | 1 Cor 15:25 | DocTrinsograce | 207594 | ||
Hi, Flinty... No, it was an epithet given me by my fellow forum members. I've got quite a few theology courses under my belt, though -- just taking them slowly, since I'm not a young fellow any longer. In Him, Doc |
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