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1 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | Val | 212077 | ||
Greetings Steve, As to my last post I would like to clarify that the twelve apostles were called specifically by Christ. They lost one, Judas. Then Paul is specifically called by Christ. The word apostle is used in a wider general sense not a specific sense to all the others who ambassors for Christ. There is no continuity of the office of an apostle since in no place were the churches instructed to ordain apostles. This explanation is from The Complete Word Study Dictionary New Testament written by Spiro Zodiates, Th.D. Futher it reads concerning Timothy in the 1 Thess. 2:6 passage: " However, the denomination seems from the beginning to have been applied, in a much wider sense, to all who ministered as colleagues of the Twelve and bore witness of Christ (Acts 14:4, 14 of Paul and Barnabas; 15:2; Rom. 16:7 of Andronicus and Junias; 2 Cor 8:23) and even by Paul (2 Cor. 11:13; 1 Thess. 2:6) This general meaning of the word held its place alongside its special and distinctive application. There is no continuity of the office of an apostle since in no place were the churches instructed to ordain apostles. Blessings -your colleague, Val |
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2 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212107 | ||
Greetings Sister! Personally, I'm in agreement that there are no new prophets or apostles in the Church today. The argument I was putting forth in post 212050 was my explanation of that :-) In an effort to understand the discussion of the gifts I have found many argue as newvvvine does from Ephesians 4 mainly standing on Ephesians 4:13. What I was trying to point out to him is that the fruits of the ministry of the gifted men given to the Church live on to this day still edifying the Church. The results of their ministry in the Church did not die with them. Proof of that is the written word :-) I was not saying that there were any ordain apostles to carry on. Does that help explain what I was saying? Or am I confused on what you were saying? :-) Your brother in Christ, Steve |
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3 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | Val | 212118 | ||
Hello Steve, I was making the point that from scripture the last Apostle was Paul. Paul entrusted the gospel to Timothy when He died. In studying Timothy we are told that he was a pastor of a church. He was not called an Apostle of the like of Paul and the original twelve Apostles. I was agreeing with you on this point. The results of the teaching of Christ through the Apostles are still in effect today -I agree. I believe a prophet in todays world is someone who explains the written word in a way others can understand it. I don't think they say things that are not in the bible. I do think God raises up people to do this. I have not done a word study on prophet so thats the extend of my knowledge from what I have studied so far. I am studying the book of Hebrews now. Christ is the fulfillment of the old testament prophecies as He is the Messiah. He is better than the old testament sacrifices. He is the substance. He is better than the priests as He is a priest from Heaven. He tells us to come boldly and directly to Him through His blood and make our requests to Him. Notice in Israel they had to go through the priests and prophet. What changed? Anyone who wanted to believe in Jehovah God became a proselyte under that system. Under the New Covenant, the better covenant Christ cleanses our conscience and takes away our sins. This could never be done under the old covenant. Otherwise there would have been no need for another, better covenant. Now believers everywhere can go directly to the Father through the Son to the throne of grace. We do not have to go through priests and prophets. This is what I have learned from the book of Hebrews, a book which explains the change from the old covenant to the new covenant, the previous priests and our better priest Christ, and the animal sacrifices which could never take away sin to the one perfect sacrifice Christ who cleanses our conscience and takes away our sin through belief in His name. I agree with you and was adding to the conversation,i.e., bible study. Merry Christmas - Val | ||||||
4 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212134 | ||
Ah sister how wonderful is the good news!!! :-) I love the post! So many wonderful truths you have pointed out. And it never gets old nor do we ever grow tired of hearing it. As far as my mind has been able to reach I have yet to find an end to how blessed we are to know such a wonderful and mighty God! You should read your post to your loved ones at Christmas just to draw there attention to the wonder and glory of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ! Merry Christmas to you Val and your loved ones! Your brother in Christ, Steve |
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5 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | Val | 212144 | ||
Greetings Steve, thank you for your amens. That is a wonderful idea. I will share the post as you suggested. Thank you for your kind words and your love of our precious Saviour Christ Jesus. A Merry Christmas to you and yours - Val | ||||||