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1 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | Morant61 | 211123 | ||
Greetings Jeff! Thanks for the kind words! One often wonders when posting on a forum like this if a post is actually accomplishing anything. It is nice to hear that some are actually reading them. :-) I've been picking on those who believe that the gifts have ceased, now let me pick on many of those who believe that the gifts are still for today. :-) 1) Why do some churches allow many people to speak in tongues at once when Scripture specifically forbids this? 1 Cor. 14:27 says, "If anyone speaks in a tongue, two—or at the most three—should speak, one at a time, and someone must interpret." 2) Why do some churches allow tongues to be spoken publicly, even when there is no interpretation, when Scripture specifically forbids this. 1 Cor. 14:28 says, "If there is no interpreter, the speaker should keep quiet in the church and speak to himself and God." There are several reasons why I am passionate about this topic (and not one of them includes me being pentecostal or charismatic): 1) I can't stand for anything to be presented as Biblical doctrine, when Scripture does not support it. 2) I believe that the Gifts of the Spirit are meant to enable us to minister more effectively. Most churches have forgotten about the Holy Spirit, and most have certainly ignored His gifts. It is not tongues that I am concerned about, it is all of His gifts. We need His power to minister to this lost and fallen world. p.s. - For your reading, I would suggest 1 Cor. 12-14, Eph. 4:1-17, Rom. 12:4-8, 1 Tim. 4:11-16, 2 Tim. 1:6 (Note by the way that Timothy had a spiritual gift!), Heb. 2:1-4, and 1 Pet. 4:10-11 I hope these aid in your study my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | jlhetrick | 211132 | ||
Brother Tim, thank you for your thoughts. In the past, I spent several years in a charismatic church (actually 2 different ones). The thing that always bothered both me and my wife was the “speaking in tongues” business. First of all, it didn’t seem real to me (the lady to my left would be nearly perfectly imitating the guy in front of her, for example) and even if it was, it was not practiced biblically. Very often no interpretation and every service involved multiple people doing it at the same time. I have never spoken in tongues and neither has my wife (though I did pray for it sincerely for more than a couple of years because I was wrongly told that it was intended for every believer). We eventually left the first church after the pastor refused to correct publicly, to the congregation, some nonsense that a guest speaker had brought to the pulpit. Briefly, it had to do with a clearly unbiblical practice and although the pastor agreed, he would not address the church regarding it. Turns out that the speaker was on the staff of Kenneth Copeland’s “ministry” and through it all I found Kenneth Copeland was on our church board and an advisor so the pastor. Of course it was time to go. I agree that it does seem that the Church, in large part, has forgotten about the Holy Spirit. I also agree that it is the wrong approach to adopt and hold so tightly to any doctrine that is not biblically supported. I will revisit the biblical references you have pointed to; thanks for your feedback. I think of the patient who never misses a single appointment with me, always showing up on time but always with the same complaints. The one that doesn't take the medication as prescribed and doesn't apply the treatment plan. Jeff |
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