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1 | Baptism in the Holy Spirit? | 1 Cor 12:13 | Radioman2 | 76360 | ||
"For by one Spirit we were all baptized" NASB 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. AMPLIFIED 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by [means of the personal agency of] one [Holy] Spirit we were all, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free, baptized [and by baptism united together] into one body, and all made to drink of one [Holy] Spirit. |
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2 | Baptism in the Holy Spirit? | 1 Cor 12:13 | disciplerami | 76649 | ||
Could the baptism here be talking about water baptism? The Holy Spirit would still be at work in it: 'the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit.' 'Born of water and the Spirit.' (Titus 3:5; John 3:5) At the water, the baptized person's faith meets the grace of God. Good day. |
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3 | Baptism in the Holy Spirit? | 1 Cor 12:13 | Morant61 | 76657 | ||
Greetings Disciplerami! I doubt it! :-) Water baptism is not mentioned in 1 Cor. 12:12, or Titus 3:5, or John 3:5. They all refer to a work of the Holy Spirit. Now, I know that we differ on the role of baptism in salvation, and I don't really want to rehash all of that. But, I am curious about the Scriptural support for the following statement of yours: "At the water, the baptized person's faith meets the grace of God." The only reference I could find in the New Testament which gives a condition for grace is Rom. 5:2, "through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God." But, there is no reference to water baptism here! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Baptism in the Holy Spirit? | 1 Cor 12:13 | Emmaus | 76663 | ||
Tim, How about the Baptism of Jesus when the Father spoke and the Holy Spirit decended in the form of a dove. Jesus did set the example after all. :-) I am always perplexed when people talk about "water baptism' as if it was somehow separated from grace and the Holy Spirit. Normally the two go together as in bing born again by water and the Holy Spirit or by water and from above. "536. "The BAPTISM OF JESUS is on his part the acceptance and inauguration of his mission as God's suffering Servant. He allows himself to be numbered among sinners; he is already 'the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world'.[Jn 1:29 ; cf. Is 53:12 .] Already he is anticipating the 'Baptism' of his bloody death.[Cf. Mk 10:38 ; Lk 12:50 .] Already he is coming to 'fulfill all righteounessess', that is, he is submitting himself entirely to his Father's will: out of love he consents to this Baptism OF death for the remission OF our sins.[Mt 3:15 ; cf. Mt 26:39 .] The Father's voice responds to the Son's aceptance, proclaiming his entire delight in his Son.[Cf. Lk 3:22 ; Is 42:1 .] The Spirit whom JESUS possessed in fullness from his conception comes to 'rest on him'.[Jn 1:32-33 ; cf. Is 11:2 .] JESUS will be the source of the Spirit for all mankind. At his Baptism 'the heavens were opened'[Mt 3:16 .] - the heavens that Adam's sin had closed - and the waters were sanctified by the descent of Jesus and the Spirit, a prelude to the new creation." The Catechism Emmaus |
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5 | Baptism in the Holy Spirit? | 1 Cor 12:13 | Morant61 | 76666 | ||
Greetings Emmaus! As you know from my many posts on this subject, I believe that baptism is important simply because it was commanded by Christ. But, I do not believe that it is 'necessary' for salvation. In other words, I do not believe that baptism imparts or is necessary to receive the grace of God. Disciplerami's statement sounds nice, but there is not Scripture which says, "When you are baptized, you receive my grace". :-) The reason those like me seperate baptism and grace is simply because to mix the two makes it a work, which cannot save. It is a response to God's grace, not a means of receiving it. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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6 | Baptism in the Holy Spirit? | 1 Cor 12:13 | Emmaus | 76670 | ||
Tim, Of course I disagree. Baptism is something done to us not by us. If it is a work at all, it is a work of God by the Holy Spirit, using the Church,the Body of Christ, to baptize those who He has drawn to Himself, which drawing is itself an act of grace. We do nothing but profess our faith and receive grace at baptism. Anyway, enough said by me on this intractible subject. Emmaus |
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