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1 | Mercy's God's prerogative | Rom 9:15 | srbaegon | 156837 | ||
Hello CSM, No, I wouldn't call that glory "understanding." We understand certain things about God in that: The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law. Deut 29:29 (ESV) We strive to understand so that we know what he desires and expects. We thank him for his steadfast love to the children of men. We praise him for his mighty acts. We worship him for who he is as he has revealed himself. God's glory encompasses more than our understanding of him. Steve |
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2 | Mercy's God's prerogative | Rom 9:15 | C.S.M. | 156870 | ||
Hi Steve, Revelation from God is what Jesus said the "gates of hell would not prevail against the church" Matt 16:17-18 God reveals to sinners,Jesus, the Living Word, God revealing the written word, the Bible, is what is called in Deut 29:29 "the things that are revealed belong to us"... That would be understanding God's revelation of his word. If one didn't understand it, it would do no good for God to reveal it, would it? It's not an either/or statement, it is both and more. Why have only half when God has afforded you all of it? I have absolute agreement with your statements. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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3 | Mercy's God's prerogative | Rom 9:15 | srbaegon | 156884 | ||
Hello C.S.M. You said: "Revelation from God is what Jesus said the 'gates of hell would not prevail against the church' Matt 16:17-18" I'm sorry, but this sentence makes no sense. Also, I didn't say we couldn't understand God's revelation. I said understanding was not the glory. Steve |
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4 | Mercy's God's prerogative | Rom 9:15 | C.S.M. | 156934 | ||
Hi Steve, It's scripture! What's not to understand? Since God gives the "spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him" and "opens the eyes of our understanding" and is the Father of Glory, why are you confused that a part of God's glory, which is all of his abilities, is understanding???? Everything good is a part of God's glory ! Some have a mystical idea of glory as being a bright light, a mystical experience or some other thing. Consider the glory spoken of in I Cor 15:38-45, then from your understanding determine what kind of glory that is ! Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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5 | Mercy's God's prerogative | Rom 9:15 | srbaegon | 156941 | ||
Hello CSM, I understand scripture. I don't understand your use of scripture. You ask: "why are you confused that a part of God's glory, which is all of his abilities, is understanding????" God demonstrates his glory through all that he has done and said and causes us to understand him. Everything good is not part of God's glory: It demonstrates his glory. What you are espousing is pantheism or panentheism. 1 Cor 15:38-45 speaks of the glory of each created thing and how they are different. It says nothing of it being God's glory. Steve |
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6 | Mercy's God's prerogative | Rom 9:15 | C.S.M. | 157082 | ||
Steve, I am not espousing pantheism or panentheism. The point being glory used in I Cor 15:38-45, denotes the usefulness of a thing, and in this setting Paul throws into the mix "so also is the resurrection of the dead..sown in dishonor; raised in glory: sown in weakness; raised in power" You do recall the scripture that states "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are CLEARLY SEEN being understood by the THINGS THAT ARE MADE, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse." If you can understand the natural things of the earth and their relationships you can understand the Godhead, according to this scripture. You can have no excuse! That would include God's glory in the I Cor 15:38-45 passage..according to the Ro 1:20 scripture. You can't just fluff it off and say "they are different," you must discern, how and why they are different, and how it relates to the Godhead. According to this scripture, you're supposed to be able to discern clearly, and understand by THINGS THAT ARE MADE, God's eternal power AND Godhead. I hear some adjustments going on in your head... Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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7 | Mercy's God's prerogative | Rom 9:15 | srbaegon | 157097 | ||
Hello CSM, You wrote: "The point being glory used in I Cor 15:38-45, denotes the usefulness of a thing" How do you arrive at this? You wrote: "If you can understand the natural things of the earth and their relationships you can understand the Godhead, according to this scripture [Ro 1:20] scripture." No, it says you can see evidence of God via the display of his power and godhead (i.e. divine nature). The godhead is only understandable through spiritual means 1 Cor 2:12-14 (ESV): Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual. The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. Steve |
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