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1 | Can we live life without sinning? | Rom 6:12 | fwiaskycap | 209217 | ||
So is it saying here that we can live life without sinning? | ||||||
2 | Can we live life without sinning? | Rom 6:12 | Morant61 | 209219 | ||
Greetings Fwiaskycap! One will get many different responses from a question like this, but here is a repost of mine that I believe does justice to the context of Romans 6: _________________ I agree with your point that it is POSSIBLE to live without sin, but I think the term "entire sanctification" brings up a lot of baggage when people read it. So, without appealing to the term, let's look at what Romans 6 actually says: In Romans 6, Paul makes the case that it is possible to be holy. He says there that: · We died to sin - Rom. 6:2. · Our old nature was crucified with Him - Rom. 6:6. · We are no longer slaves to sin - Rom. 6:6. · We are not to let sin reign in our mortal bodies - Rom. 6:12. · Sin shall not be our master - Rom. 6:14. · We have been set free from sin - Rom. 6:18. If Christians are incapable of holiness, then in what sense did we die to sin? In what sense, are we no longer it's slaves? If it is not possible to avoid sin, how can Paul command us not to yield to it? The point that Paul is making, and that most people seem to miss, is that we have changed in Christ. Apart from Him, we were slaves to sin. It's power over us was absolute. In Him, we are no longer sin's slaves. It's power is not irresistable. Thus, Paul is not saying that it is NEVER possible for a Chritian to sin! We all know that we do. There are times when we yield to sin and temptation and commit acts of sin. But, as Christians it is no longer impossible for us to resist sin. It's power has been broken in our lives. If we abide in Him, moment by moment, and refuse to yield to sin, we can live holy lives. Does this mean that we can be sinlessly perfect? No! We are still human. We will at times sin in ignorance. We will at times sin out of willfulness. But, sin's has been broken in Christ and we no longer HAVE to sin. We will sin when and only when we choose to sin! Thus, the problem is one of our will. Entire sanctification basically teaches that we can come to a moment in our Christian lives when we fully consecrate ourselves to God. As long as we remain fully consecrated, we won't will to sin. Therefore, we will not yield to it. But, we can still sin if we choose. Thus, it seems to me that there are two unBiblical extremes which must be avoided: 1) The belief that we cannot help but to sin. 2) The belief that it is impossible for us to sin. (Note: Even entire sanctification doesn't teach that it is impossible to sin!) I look forward to hearing some input on these issues! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Can we live life without sinning? | Rom 6:12 | KcabmI4 | 209250 | ||
Hello to you Mr Morant61 Iam not talking to you befor Iam liking what you have been writing all of this writing of yours I am fully agreeing with but then Iam comeing to a question for you. I will be putting what you have written here so you can be seeing what my questioning is of you. Is this the correct thing to be doing so you can see my questioning? (your teaching) The point that Paul is making, and that most people seem to miss, is that we have changed in Christ. Apart from Him, we were slaves to sin. It's power over us was absolute. In Him, we are no longer sin's slaves. It's power is not irresistible. Iam agreeing to your saying we are having been changed in Christ. We are being new creachers now by Him but if we were being to sin slaves with the power absolute. Then when we are being in Jesus is not His power over us as absolut as sins was by His being sinless and then by defeting sin for us. To be saying sins power now is only being irresistible and not defeeted sounds like it is being somethin we can now do by ourselves. (your teaching) Thus, Paul is not saying that it is NEVER possible for a Chritian to sin! We all know that we do. There are times when we yield to sin and temptation and commit acts of sin. But, as Christians it is no longer impossible for us to resist sin. It's power has been broken in our lives. If we abide in Him, moment by moment, and refuse to yield to sin, we can live holy lives. When you are saying we all sin are we not loosing salvation at this time? If we are becoming to sin again in our lives we can never again be having salvation again also the bible is saying Jesus did his dieing once for the sins.Then again you are saying it being not impossible for us to be resisting the sins of us and this power sin was holding over us was being broken by Jesus but there are going to be times in our lives when we cannot be winning over the temptations. If the power has been broken over sin in our lives how is it having power to be making us to be sining again? You are then saying if we aare abiding moment by the moment refusing to be yealding to this sin are we not in that moment saving ourselves? Iam being very confused by us sining when we are yealding to this temptation or not sining because we are doing the resisting of it what are we being saved from by the death of Jesus when we are the ones doing the resisting and the yealding of sin is not this meaning sin still has power over us? What was the power of sin that has been defeeted by Jesuses death of us? Iam thanking you for this teaching it is making me to be thinking about things of beleaf and how we beleaf them. Iam having other questions for you though Iam not wanting to be asking so much of you now so you will be having time in your answering. I will be asking you the other questions now in another post I will be sending to you but I will not be sending it to you right away but will be sending it tomorrow.As I am writing now I am thinking maby my hole question of you comes to the are you saying a christain can lose salvation? Iam not thinking this I am bebeaving God has started a work in us that He will compleat also nothing is able to take us out of the hands of Jesus our Savior. KcabmI4 |
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4 | Can we live life without sinning? | Rom 6:12 | stjohn | 209251 | ||
Hi Mr KcabmI4: I'm Sure Tim will answer you tomorrow. But if I may, I'd just like to add one thing, and direct you to a good website, to answer many questions. I'm not trying get you to leave by any means. I want you to stay and study with us, but I just want to give this as an extra resource that will help you a lot. You are asking from what you read from Tim's post; can we lose salvation? Well, the short answer is, no. There is no conceivable fraction of forever. John 3:16 says we get eternal life in Jesus. So what part of eternal can we lose? None! Eternal is forever! http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-lose-salvation.html and... http://www.gotquestions.org/Hebrews-10-26.html and... http://www.gotquestions.org/Hebrews-6.html I hope you enjoy Gotquestions.org it is a wealth of sound Scriptural answers, to some of our many questions. I hope this helps you, as much as it has helped me. God bless John |
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