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1 | How is it a law without consequences? | Rom 5:8 | Bill Mc | 19814 | ||
Steve, What does Gal 5:18 mean to you? 'But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.' You yourself said that 'While some people want to categorize them, the Bible does not.' Is the Mosaic Law the exact same as God's moral law? Why would God say that we are no longer under the Law? If your answer is that 'we are no longer under the punishment of the Law' then you are playing loose with the text. Paul was addressing circumcision as a sign of being under the Law. The Judaizers were trying to put the Galatians back under the Law with all its restrictions and rules. So Paul was not talking about JUST the punishment of breaking the Law. My analogy still stands. If there is a law that says, "Do this or die," then you have no right whatsoever to strip away the "or die." God never did. The wages of sin is ALWAYS death. Now either Christ took it for you, or you must take it. You cannot say that God overlooks it. God does no such thing. Every time you sin, Christ took the punishment for that sin upon the cross. So, back to my analogy. If the speed limit says 65 MPH and it is NEVER enforced, then how is it a law? You said that a law is "a rule that was parceled by (I'll substitute 'government' for the sake of illustration) to give me direction, having positive or negative consequences.' So, according to your definition, if there is no negative or positive consequences to going over 65 MPH, then, by your own definition, it is no longer a law. It then becomes merely a principle i.e. you SHOULD to this. But the Law said that you had better to this or else. If you break the Law, you deserve death. Neither you nor I have any right to change the conditions or to attempt to strip the Law of its power. How is a 65 MPH speed limit a law if there is no consequences? In Christ, not under the Law, Bill Mc |
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2 | How is it a law without consequences? | Rom 5:8 | Searcher56 | 19977 | ||
What does Gal 5:18 mean to you? 'But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.' By the context, I am -not justified by the Law (vv. 1-6) ... does the Law save? -obeying the truth (vs. 7-12) ... obedience requires rules, and maybe even law -living by the Spirit and not gratifying my sinful nature (vs. 16) it is contrary and there is a conflict , and I don't do what I want to do it (vs. 17)... and I am led by the Spirit (vs. 18a) Is the word "not" in the original? Moving on ... The list of acts of the sinful nature include some in the Law ... and if we live like this, breaking the Law, we will not inherit the kingdom of God (vv. 19-21). The law has no provisions of grace or mercy. Our Savior and Lord provided this. You are right the wages of sins is death. Until I let Him take it, I would have received that punishment. But, I still can sin, and do. It is because I don't obey His Law. Back to your 65MPH law. It is still the law. I cannot force law enforcement to do their job. There are laws on the books, which aren't enforced. But, it does not free me to break them. I know we break the Law into categories, even I do and have posted them. But, God does not say "Here is the moral law ..." We will disagree on the relationship of law and grace/ mercy. I would like you to answer all the questions I posed, anyway. Searcher (Steve ... there are three of us here, so I use Searcher to avoid confusion) |
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3 | How is it a law without consequences? | Rom 5:8 | Bill Mc | 19983 | ||
Searcher, Thanks for the response. I use the NASB for my word studies and correlate it with my interlinear. They both have the word "not" in Gal 5:18. That is the best I can do because I cannot read Greek. You are right that we will probably not agree on the relationship of law and grace/mercy. That's too bad because I feel all Christians need a solid understanding of both. You need to know that though I don't think that we are under Law, I am not without a 'guidance system.' I do, indeed, have one. It is no longer the external Law written on stone but the law of Christ internally written upon my heart and mind. So, at heart, I am not anti-Law. But, be that as it may, I will respect your right to disagree with me. With that in mind, I will have to pass up answering some of your questions for the sake of peace on this issue. It wouldn't do either of us any good for me to respond to a Law question, "Searcher, we are not under Law" when you believe that we are. So I will be a little bit 'pickier' on what questions I submit answers to. Searcher, I would appreciate if you read my fairly current question on whether we are under the Mosaic Law or not. Even if you don't agree with me, it would be helpful if you saw the scriptures listed there that show why I take such a strong stance on this issue. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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