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1 | Is baptism necessary for salvation? | Acts 10:48 | Grace and Truth | 53895 | ||
691 what is baptism Answer Bible general kalos Wed 12/12/01, 7:01pm Is baptism needed for salvation? Part One Is baptism necessary for salvation? "No. Let's examine what the Scriptures teach on this issue: "First, it is quite clear from such passages as Acts 15 and Romans 4 that no external act is necessary for salvation. Salvation is by divine grace through faith alone (Romans 3:22, 24, 25, 26, 28, 30; 4:5; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8-9; Philippians 3:9, etc.). (NONE OF THESE PASSAGES EXCLUDES WATER BAPTISM) "If baptism were necessary for salvation, we would expect to find it stressed whenever the gospel is presented in Scripture. That is not the case, however. Peter mentioned baptism in his sermon on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:38). However, in his sermon from Solomon's portico in the Temple (Acts 3:12-26), Peter makes no reference to baptism, but links forgiveness of sin to repentance (3:19). If baptism is necessary for the forgiveness of sin, why didn't Peter say so in Acts 3? "Paul never made baptism any part of his gospel presentations. In 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Paul gives a concise summary of the gospel message he preached. There is no mention of baptism. (BUT COMPARE 1COR.15:1-4 WITH ROMANS 6:3-5 AND YOU WILL SEE THE PARALLEL, DEATH, BURIAL AND RESURRECTION!) ALONG WITH JOHN 3:3-5 BEING BORN AGAIN! In 1 Corinthians 1:17, Paul states that "Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel," thus clearly differentiating the gospel from baptism. (NO ONE WAS BAPTIZED BEFORE THE GOSPEL WAS PREACHED, AND BESIDES PAUL HAD COMPANIONS WITH HIM TO TAKE CARE OF THAT MATTER). (THIS STATE WAS MADE FOR A REASON, SEE 1 COR.1:15, AND YOU CAN BE SURE OF THIS, THAT ALL OF THE CORINTHIANS HAD BEEN BAPTIZED FOR THE REMISSION OF THEIR SINS)! "Perhaps the most convincing refutation of the view that baptism is necessary for salvation are those who were saved apart from baptism. We have no record of the apostles' being baptized, (NOT TURE JOHN 4:1-2)! yet Jesus pronounced them clean of their sins (John 15:3--note that the Word of God, (JOHN 3:5 SAYS YOU'RE WRONG) not baptism, is what cleansed them). The penitent woman (Luke 7:37-50), the paralytic man (Matthew 9:2), and the publican (Luke 18:13-14) also experienced forgiveness of sins apart from baptism. (THESE CANNOT HELP YOU, HEB 9:15-17). "The Bible also gives us an example of people who were saved before being baptized. In Acts 10:44-48, Cornelius and those with him were converted through Peter's message. That they were saved before being baptized is evident from their reception of the Holy Spirit (v. 44) and the gifts of the Spirit (v. 46) before their baptism. Indeed, it is the fact that they had received the Holy Spirit (and hence were saved) that led Peter to baptize them (cf. v. 47). (I BELIEVE THAT BEING BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS IS WHAT CONFIRMED THEIR SALVATION NOT JUST THE HOLY SPIRIT, VS.48). "In other words, we must compare Scripture with Scripture in order to understand its full and proper sense. "However, in his sermon from Solomon's portico in the Temple (Acts 3:12-26), Peter makes no reference to baptism, but links forgiveness of sin to repentance (3:19). Just because it's not mentioned, does not mean it's not necessary, look at Acts 8:26 Philip didn't mention baptism, but the eunuch did, so what does that tell you? You boldly say that water baptism is not necessary for salvation, 2 Tim 2:15 tells us to handle God's word right. If water baptism is from God then it's for salvation Matt 21:25, you need to answer the question in the above text before you speak. Then when water baptism is done in the NAME OF JESUS FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS, IT'S FOR SALVATION. Acts 4:12. Many of you look to the theif on the cross to try and verify your points about baptism not being necessary, but you present a big problem for yourself and others. Here's THREE POINTS TO CONSIDER! 1. The theif was able to look Jesus in the eye and speak face to face and we are not! Matt 9:6 2. The theif was forgiven before the death of Jesus, before the covenant was in effect. Heb 9:15-17. 3. Our salvation is based on the death, burial,resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ, and the theif's was not! Those who use this event to prove that baptism is not necessary for salvation are WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! YES, "LOOPS AND HOOPS" OF GOD'S WORD. IF JESUS COMMANDED IT, YOU MUST DO IT TO BE SAVED!!!! DON'T LET ANYONE TELL YOU THAT BAPTISM IN WATER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION, ONLY LET THE BIBLE TELL YOU. ACTS 4:12 NEITHER IS THERE SALVATION IN ANY OTHER: FOR THERE IS NONE OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN GIVEN AMONG MEN, WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED. WATER BAPTISM IN THE NAME OF JESUS FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS, (MUST BE DONE THROUGH FAITH) LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE TO BE SAVED. YES, BY FAITH IT REMOVES SINS FROM YOUR LIVES! |
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2 | Is baptism necessary for salvation? | Acts 10:48 | kalos | 53980 | ||
Is baptism needed for salvation? Part Two "In Acts 2:38, Peter appears to link forgiveness of sins to baptism. But there are at least two plausible interpretations of this verse that do not connect forgiveness of sin with baptism. It is possible to translate the Greek preposition eis "because of," or "on the basis of," instead of "for." It is used in that sense in Matthew 3:11; 12:41; and Luke 11:32. It is also possible to take the clause "and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" as parenthetical. Support for that interpretation comes from that fact that "repent" and "your" are plural, while "be baptized" is singular, thus setting it off from the rest of the sentence. If that interpretation is correct, the verse would read "Repent (and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ) for the forgiveness of your sins." Forgiveness is thus connected with repentance, not baptism, in keeping with the consistent teaching of the New Testament (cf. Luke 24:47; John 3:18; Acts 5:31; 10:43; 13:38; 26:18; Ephesians 5:26). "Mark 16:16, a verse often quoted to prove baptism is necessary for salvation, is actually a proof of the opposite. Notice that the basis for condemnation in that verse is not the failure to be baptized, but only the failure to believe. Baptism is mentioned in the first part of the verse because it was the outward symbol that always accompanied the inward belief. I might also mention that many textual scholars think it unlikely that vv. 9-20 are an authentic part of Mark's gospel. We can't discuss here all the textual evidence that has caused many New Testament scholars to reject the passage. But you can find a thorough discussion in Bruce Metzger, et al., A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, pp. 122-128, and William Hendriksen, The Gospel of Mark, pp. 682-687. "Water baptism does not seem to be what Peter has in view in 1 Peter 3:21. The English word "baptism" is simply a transliteration of the Greek word baptizo, which means "to immerse." Baptizo does not always refer to water baptism in the New Testament (cf. Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8; 7:4; 10:38-39; Luke 3:16; 11:38; 12:50; John 1:33; Acts 1:5; 11:16; 1 Corinthians 10:2; 12:13). Peter is not talking about immersion in water, as the phrase "not the removal of dirt from the flesh" indicates. He is referring to immersion in Christ's death and resurrection through "an appeal to God for a good conscience," or repentance. "I also do not believe water baptism is in view in Romans 6 or Galatians 3. I see in those passages a reference to the baptism in the Holy Spirit (cf. 1 Corinthians 12:13). For a detailed exposition of those passages, I refer you to my commentaries on Galatians and Romans, or the tapes of my sermons on Galatians 3 and Romans 6. "In Acts 22:16, Paul recounts the words of Ananias to him following his experience on the Damascus road: "Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name." It is best to connect the phrase "wash away your sins" with "calling on His name." If we connect it with "be baptized," the Greek participle epikalesamenos ("calling") would have no antecedent. Paul's sins were washed away not by baptism, but by calling on His name. "Baptism is certainly important, and required of every believer. However, the New Testament does not teach that baptism is necessary for salvation." (http://www.gty.org/IssuesandAnswers/archive/baptism.htm) |
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3 | Is baptism necessary for salvation? | Acts 10:48 | Grace and Truth | 54046 | ||
"Baptism is certainly important, and required of every believer. However, the New Testament does not teach that baptism is necessary for salvation." Let's first look at the word "important" (WEBSTER'S NEW WORLD DICTONARY AND THESAURUS) say's meaning a great deal; having much significance or value 2 having, or acting as if having, power, authority, etc. THESAURUS; Weighty; said usually of things; significant, great, decisive, critical, determing, chief, paramount, primary, foremost, principal, influential, marked, of great consequence, ponderous, of importance, never to be overlooked, of note, valuable, crucial, substantial, vital, serious, grave, relevant, pressing, far-reaching, extensive, conspicuous, heavy, big-league, big; see also NECESSARY! So if all these words, give the meaning to the word "important" how can it not be necessary for salvation? Now let's look at the word "unnecessary" or "not necessary" meaning needless. (Thesaurus) a. needless, fortuitous, casual, chance, haphazard, wanton, accidental, unessential, nonessential, beside the point, irrelevant, futile, extraneous, additional, redundant, useless, exorbitant, superfluous, worthless, undesirable, optional, avoidable, objectionable, disadvantageous, random, noncompulsory,, dispenable, adventitious, without compulsion, uncalled for, gratuitous. Now with all this in view, do you want to tell us that Jesus commanded us to "do" something that has no salvicit value? |
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4 | Is baptism necessary for salvation? | Acts 10:48 | srbaegon | 54049 | ||
Hello Grace and Truth "Now with all this in view, do you want to tell us that Jesus commanded us to "do" something that has no salvicit value?" Yes. For example: John 13:34 (ESV) A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. Absolutely no salvific value, but important and necessary. Steve |
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5 | Is baptism necessary for salvation? | Acts 10:48 | Grace and Truth | 54052 | ||
The bible teaches that through water baptism we get into Christ Gal 3:27, Rom.6:3,4,5; John 3:3,5 and into his kingdom, that's salvitic value. |
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6 | Is baptism necessary for salvation? | Acts 10:48 | McGracer | 54060 | ||
Dear Grace and Truth, This assertion, brother is simply not true. Baptism is, first and foremost, a spiritual act. Consider 1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit. We are not baptized into Christ when we are dunked in water, brother. We are baptized spiritually into Christ as soon as we believe. The water is merely a physical form that represents the spiritual truth. This is the heart of Gal 3:27 and Rom 6:3-5. These passages do not mention water whatsoever. They are speaking of spiritual truth. Jesus well explains the meaning of John 3:3,5 in verse 6. That which is born of flesh is flesh - you are first born surrounded by a sack of water. At birth, the water breaks and then you are born. That is flesh birth. That which is born of Spirit is spirit. God caused us a new spirit to be born in us at new birth and He indwells that spirit. Jesus' words had nothing whatsoever to do with being dunked in water. Dear brother, do not mistake the picture for the reality. Water baptism is a physical picture of your very real union with Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection. As He physically died, you were spiritually dead. As He was physically buried, you were spiritually buried. As He physically rose from the dead, you have been (past tense) spiritually raised from the dead to walk in the newness of life - Rom 6:4. This is spiritual truth and H2O cannot save you. Only Christ can save you. Being spiritually baptized by the Holy Spirit into Christ is what saves you, not getting your body wet. Please don't mistake the two. One represents the other, therefore one is lesser than the other. One is reality, one is a symbol. Please don't make them equal. McGracer |
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7 | Is baptism necessary for salvation? | Acts 10:48 | Grace and Truth | 54064 | ||
I've heard this before also. But when one believes the gospel, after hearing it romans 10:17; Heb 11:6, he repents of his sins Luke 13:3,5 he confesses the name of Jesus Christ to be the Son of God, who was raised from the dead Acts 8:37;Matt10:33, then is baptized (in the name of Jesus Christ) Acts 4:12, for the remission of his sins Acts 2:38; 22:16. This is what was done in the first century and it still applies today. You may not believe it, but that doesn't make it not true. Maybe you can answer this question about baptism, in Matt 21:25 The baptism of John, whence was it? from heaven, or of men? |
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