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1 | Have I misunderstood your question? | John 6:56 | sharp | 4809 | ||
You seem to have the right idea. 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vaindeceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world,and not after Christ. 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: You see the fulness of the Godhead, (seat of authority) was in Christ, (anionted) the man Christ Jesus. We have an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient God. The development of the trinity doctrine can be traced in church history, no matter how much you try to divide or limit God scripture is clear, there is one God and he is Spirit. |
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2 | Three Offices or Three Persons? | John 6:56 | Morant61 | 4854 | ||
Thanks for your response! Now that I understand where you are coming from, here is what I propose. The major point that we disagree on is whether or not there are three persons in the Godhead or three offices in the Godhead. We both believe there is only one God. So, the question we need to focus on is what the Bible says about the three (persons/offices). Since this is such a complex issue, I would like to narrow the focus. I propose that we exchange questions that we feel illustrate our position. In order for this to work, we both must honestly and fairly deal with the question asked. Too often, in complex debates, questions are never really dealt with, only swept away with more questions. If you are open to this, it should be a fun and challenging debate. Here is my first question: Who was Jesus praying to in John 14:16? John 14:16 - "And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever—" Clearly, Jesus is praying to the Father, asking that the Father will send another Counselor (The Holy Spirit) to dwell within believers. If (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) are only three offices or roles in which God manifests Himself, who was Jesus praying to when He prayed to the Father? I'm looking forward to your response and question. Tim Moran |
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3 | Three Offices or Three Persons? | John 6:56 | sharp | 4865 | ||
Hi Tim We have Jesus born of a virgin, called son of God, son of man, son of David, holy child (Acts 4:30), holy thing (Luke 1:35) ect. As a man he grew from an infant, he was hungry and had to eat,thirsty and had to drink, we find him asleep in a ship during a bad storm. Jesus was God and man, God is not flesh and blood. As a man he got hungry, as God he feed the multitude, as a man he got thirsty, as God he said he would give living water, as a man he needed sleep, God does not need to sleep. So Jesus could speak as God and as a man, he prayed as a man, unless we have a lesser god who needs help which was not the case, flesh, even sinless flesh needs to be yeilded completely to the Spirit. He also was our example. Isa. 9:6 states that his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. He is the Counselor or comforter. In John 14:17,18 Jesus said the comforter was the Spirit of truth, isn't he the way the truth and the life, dwelling with them and shall be in them. Jesus said in ver. 18 he would not leave them comfortless he would come to them. We could say offices or manifestations and God has manifested Himself in many ways. Heb 1 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. I would ask, did not the sonship have a beginning, begotten does mean that, right? sharp |
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4 | Three Offices or Three Persons? | John 6:56 | jim | 4880 | ||
Sharp very interesting maybr you already have this verse in 1Cor 15. it pertains to the sonship. God bless | ||||||