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1 | God's fair standards to judge evildoers | John 5:28 | EdB | 232607 | ||
The question of how does God deal with people that have never heard of Jesus Christ is a hotly debated issue outside the Reformed theology so I don’t think I stand outside of orthodoxy but I do admittedly stand outside Reformed. And the last I checked the forum guidelines this is still a forum where one theology does not over rule another just because someone insists it should. You say I am far aside of orthodox Christianity I say I stand in the middle of it and you have ignored what I say actually prevents us from going to eternal damnation. You say sin is what condemns us and I say of course it is sin but the fact is we all sin and fall short. In eternity when we stand in our homes in heaven the reason we will be there is not whether we sinned or not for we all sin but because our sins were paid for by the Blood of the Lamb on the cross. Jesus must be preached Acts 8:30-31 (NASB) 30 Philip ran up and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?" 31 And he said, "Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?" And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. For Jesus to be understood the Eunuch said he needed some one to teach him or else this eunuch spoke a lie. Why would we consider others to be different? Jesus in his discussion with the Samaritan women mentions it. John 4:22 (NASB) 22 "You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. It was Paul's burden to preach he gives us a classic example of what we are talking about in the men of Lystra His answer is found in Acts 14:15 (NASB) 15 and saying, "Men, why are you doing these things? We are also men of the same nature as you, and preach the gospel to you that you should turn from these vain things to a living God, WHO MADE THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH AND THE SEA AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM. Our theology is not that far apart but is seems like you want to find exceptions in what I'm saying. I can think of no reason except for your personal knowledge of my perspective of reformed theology which by forum guideline should not be the issue. |
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2 | God's fair standards to judge evildoers | John 5:28 | Beja | 232609 | ||
EdB, Having given a little prayer to the matter, and reflected some on past interactions involving you on the forums, I believe that your last post to me makes a little bit more sense. I understand that you think this forum is a haven for calvinists in which we chase off those who are not calvinist. So it begins to make sense to me why you somehow think reformed theology is the issue. This also sheds some light as to why you thought it needed to be defended that Christ being preached is a necessity, which I agree with and always have. But under the light of you thinking I was trying to censure your departure from calvinistic/reformed theology this statement at least seems to have some ground for you to bring it up. So, without engaging in the actual subject again, let me say just a couple things. 1. At no point was anything I was trying to explain about calvinism or anything unique to reformed theology. At least not to my knowledge. 2. At no point in any of our conversation was I trying to police or censure your posts due to their departure from reformed or calvinistic theology. 3. I in no way claim any right to censure you based upon your disagreeing with reformed/calvinistic theology. 4. I deny any notion that this forum is reserved only for those who hold to reformed/calvinistic theology. 5. I believe that all theologies within the terms of the TOU should have fair and open opportunity to be discussed and evaluated in light of scripture on this forum. 6. I reject that any theology has the right to be protected from evaluation in light of scripture on this forum from some mistaken sense of equality or tolerance. Neither reformed, arminian, Catholic or any other interpretation of scripture gets to ignore either inherrant contradictions or conflicts between it and scripture on the basis of this forum "being open to all." We are here to pursue truth together and that involves discovering errors. Again, I will not re-enter the previous discussion regarding judgment for those who have not heard of Christ. I simply wish to make the above points clear now that I think I know why you responded to me in the way you did. In Christ, Beja |
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3 | God's fair standards to judge evildoers | John 5:28 | EdB | 232611 | ||
My response to you has been what are you saying. Your response to me is I'm outside orthodox Chritianity. When I ask why do you say that you say the reasons are so numbered you can not list them. I say okay let us narrow it down. The question was asked what happens to a person that loves and worships God and lives as righteoue as humanly possible, but for one reason or another has never heard the gospel of Jesus Christ. If you know I would like scripture and verse and no Roman 1:18-32 does not address this specific issue. Perhaps my mistake was not to ask how you felt Romans 1:18-32 spoke of such a man. |
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