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1 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | lookinforacity | 205482 | ||
Hi Steve: I found some interesting verses, that might shed a different light, on how we are to take what we read. We first have to look at the Disciples (Apostles), they were in a special position, they WERE the first, they were at the starting point, they will also have a different reward. Matthew 19:27 Peter answered him, "We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?" Matthew 19:28 Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Luke 22:28 Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations. Luke 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; Luke 22:30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. This is only to show you, we cannot apply everything, that Jesus said to them, (to OURSELVES.) Hope it helps. God Bless Jim |
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2 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | BradK | 205497 | ||
Hello Jim, Possibly you could elaborate on what you mean by "that might shed a different light, on how we are to take what we read"? If you are stating that the Church is not Israel, then I would agree. Are you making the dispensational distinction that the ministry of the 12 was not the same one given to Paul? If this is not what you're saying, please explain! Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | lookinforacity | 205503 | ||
Hi Brad: What I did say, was. I found some interesting verses, that might shed a different light, on how we are to take what we read. Please excuse my ignorance, but has everyone in this Forum seen, and understood these verses before? I will admit, until today, I did not. They surprised me. From now on, when I read I will keep them in mind. If the point of study, is to divide the word of God Righteously. Then I will have to go over everything I believe, and reapply this new information. What I am talking about is, they (the Apostles)had the responsibility of establishing the Church. (not us) Did Jesus tell them things, that they alone needed, in order for them to do that work? That we as Believers, Christians, Followers, Disciples have combined with other verses, to the Church in general, thereby giving us a wrong, BELIEF. (understanding) I for one would like to know, if I am following something that could cause me some difficulty in some way. In Answer: 1) I do not believe, the Church is Israel. 2) The ministry given to Paul, was the same as for the other 12. He said himself, "As one born, out of due season" Hope this clears things up. GOD BLESS Jim |
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4 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | BradK | 205512 | ||
Hi Jim, Apparently, I don't see the "new information" you do! No intent to be difficult, but you state, "That we as Believers, Christians, Followers, Disciples have combined with other verses, to the Church in general, thereby giving us a wrong, BELIEF. (understanding)" Can you explain? Possibly I'm missing something, but are you saying we're taking the Words of Jesus (i.e. the Gospels) and mis-applying the truth given there? Is it possible that you're looking for something that isn't there? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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