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1 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | humbledbyhisgrace | 205386 | ||
John 15:8 (NASB) "My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples." The desire is to bear much fruit! The question is, if we find ourselves in a place where not much fruit or perhaps no fruit is being produced that perhaps it is God's way of telling us to move on? Steve |
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2 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | stjohn | 205468 | ||
Dear Brother, Steve: I hope this is worth two cents, It's just my thoughts on this. When I think of the fruit of the Spirit, I am drawn again to this passage of Scripture, and it is highlighted against any other, that I may consider to be fruit. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another. (Gal 5:22-26) Question I have to ask myself: If we abide in Him, and His love, how is it that we, move on, and to where do we move? By His Spirit we are being made fishers of men, and that is indeed our mission, and should always be in focus, we should strive always to battle the forces of darkness to reach this, our goal, and our hearts desire to do His will, but is making Disciples fruit, as defined in Scripture? Shalom and God bless John Footnote: I believe our ultimate goal, it to stand in His presence, in His heavenly court, and be judged rightly: washed in the blood of christ, not of ourselves nor our works, but by His grace. "I am not sure exactly what heaven will be like, but I don't know that when we die and it comes time for God to judge us, he will NOT ask, How many good things have you done in your life?, rather he will ask, How much LOVE did you put into what you did?"--Mother Teresa |
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3 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | humbledbyhisgrace | 205475 | ||
John, Thanks for the response. It’s actually turned out to be a good discussion. Lot’s to consider and work through :-) I would say most assuredly making disciples is included in the fruit. Just a quick example! John 15:10 (NASB) 10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. Matthew 28:18-20 (NASB) 18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Keep in mind. I have not said that the number of converts is the measure of the fruit that is produced. In fact I believe this is in part what Doc was pointing out and which I understand. Correct me if I miss represent you Doc :-) We sometimes view numbers as a direct correlation to success. But one need only look at many of the mega churches where Christ is never preached and see numbers is not the best indicator. You ask “Question I have to ask myself: If we abide in Him, and His love, how is it that we, move on, and to where do we move?” Well, consider this. John 15:2 (NASB) 2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. From this we can understand that at a minimum, there must be fruit! And what does it say, every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit.” So, there is a progression here, from fruit to more fruit. And in verse 5 we see “much fruit”. So, despite ones view that making disciples is or is not fruit, how does one not move on and produce more fruit and even much fruit? If there is one who completely abides in Him, I would travel far to observe him if only for a day! Steve |
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4 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | lookinforacity | 205482 | ||
Hi Steve: I found some interesting verses, that might shed a different light, on how we are to take what we read. We first have to look at the Disciples (Apostles), they were in a special position, they WERE the first, they were at the starting point, they will also have a different reward. Matthew 19:27 Peter answered him, "We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?" Matthew 19:28 Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Luke 22:28 Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations. Luke 22:29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me; Luke 22:30 That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. This is only to show you, we cannot apply everything, that Jesus said to them, (to OURSELVES.) Hope it helps. God Bless Jim |
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5 | No Fruit? | John 15:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 205492 | ||
Dear lookinforacity, Please tell us then how you take the verses in light of 2Timothy 3:16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Should we simply dismiss it? If we can’t apply the scripture in question to ourselves, to whom is it applied and how does it instruct us? Please elaborate. What is the different light shed on what our brother Steve posted? Stand in His grace, WOS |
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