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1 | You are saying that our command to...? | John 13:34 | EdB | 128233 | ||
Yes 1 John 3:18 "Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue, but in deed and truth." does say exactly what I mean. And I’m also sure you have known that for some time. Which makes me ask, why act like you didn’t know what I was saying? Why the accusations? Why challenges? Why do you always try to stir the pot? What is your agenda? Further more I never said or implied that someone motivated by love would perpetuate an act of malice or evil against his neighbor so why suggest that I did? Lastly I never implied or suggested that actions of a Christian should be motivated by anything other than love. However love in itself can lead us astray. The Love for money, the love for frame, the love for accolades all motivated by love but leading us to incorrect or destructive actions. So since I never once suggested that a Christians actions should be motivated with anything other than love for Christ why suggest I did? Unless there is a serious misunderstanding here, it seems like you’re on the forum to start fights and cause problems. Others have seen this in you so I’m not alone in my observation. Do you care to explain your actions? To answer your other question here are the commands you asked about. Command to serve Galatians 5:13 For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. Which ties directly into the command to action Command to action Matthew 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Notice “teaching them to observe (keep) all that I COMMANDED you.” Command to have faith (implied) Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him. The implication is very clear to have salvation and to please God you must believe through faith. There is no other way to approach the throne. Command to obedience John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. John 14:21 "He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him." John 15:10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. John 15:14 "You are My friends if you do what I command you. 1 John 2:4 The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; Lastly we there is an essential ingredient besides love in all of this. 1 John 3:23 This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. While no one is denying that Love is essential if you notice it’s placement, first we must believe then we should allow love to motivate our actions, service, obedience, maintaining our faith. That is why saying all we need is love is patently false we first must have salvation through Jesus Christ. And once we have salvation if we don’t put action to our love we have nothing more than a word. Please provide answers for the above questions. EdB |
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2 | Does this all help you? | John 13:34 | Stultis the Fool | 128314 | ||
EdB, thank you for all the scripture you quoted. If I have asked you to post it elswehere, please refer me in those threads to this post, or just repost what you have written here. Additionally, I appologize if I have lead you to believe that faith is unnecesary. I assume those who I converse with here on this forum (in particular, in this case, YOU) to have faith, as this is the rock upon which we all must stand. I will certainly concede that faith is the first stone of building, and without it, we have nothing. I must conclude by stating that my discussions of love are precluded by the notion that they are directed at individuals that have and understand faith. I appologize for not stipulating this. Again, my discussion is not geared toward the unbeliever (without faith), but to the believer (with faith). I hope this helps clear the air. You wrote: "Further more I never said or implied that someone motivated by love would perpetuate an act of malice or evil against his neighbor so why suggest that I did?" No, but you did state or otherwise imply that we CAN love and NOT display our love by "deeds" or works. I tell you plainly that anyone who behaves this way DOES NOT love, and is a liar. If I TRULY love, I will most certainly perform the works of a loving person. Does this help clarify the matter? You wrote: "Yes 1 John 3:18 "Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue, but in deed and truth." does say exactly what I mean. And I’m also sure you have known that for some time. Which makes me ask, why act like you didn’t know what I was saying?W hy the accusations? Why challenges? Why do you always try to stir the pot? What is your agenda?" I refer you to the previous answere, as describing true love verses someone who just lies about their love. Additionaly, I reply in the manner I reply because of your use of the word "junk," and your comparison of (my interpretations?) to John Lennon's guru. What you write there is really just a method of avoiding using profanity to describe what I wrote, while making all the same implications. It is nomenclature that is directly beligerant, and expressed vehemently, and I wish to reply to it in a sound fashion that will bring us both to truth. Which brings me to another question; You wrote: "Why do you always try to stir the pot? What is your agenda?" My agenda is to edify, and I really wish you hadn't accused me of "stirring the pot." I will point out that my response to your first post was one of approval, quoted here: "Good verses, EdB... more of the same!" I appologize if you took this as a slight. To conclude, You wrote: "While no one is denying that Love is essential if you notice it’s placement, first we must believe then we should allow love to motivate our actions, service, obedience, maintaining our faith. That is why saying all we need is love is patently false we first must have salvation through Jesus Christ. And once we have salvation if we don’t put action to our love we have nothing more than a word." I now understand thouroughly the confusion we share in this discussion, and I gladly point out that my exhortations to love are to the FAITHFUL Christians, and not directed towards the unfaithful, who obviously need faith! Does this all help you? Let's continue this conversation and really come to such agreement as we are commanded through love! I look forward to your reply! |
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3 | Does this all help you? | John 13:34 | Searcher56 | 128456 | ||
I think this thread has been temporarily restricted because of you. STOP posting. | ||||||