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NASB | John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 13:34 "I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, so you too are to love one another. |
Bible Question (short): Does this all help you? |
Question (full): EdB, thank you for all the scripture you quoted. If I have asked you to post it elswehere, please refer me in those threads to this post, or just repost what you have written here. Additionally, I appologize if I have lead you to believe that faith is unnecesary. I assume those who I converse with here on this forum (in particular, in this case, YOU) to have faith, as this is the rock upon which we all must stand. I will certainly concede that faith is the first stone of building, and without it, we have nothing. I must conclude by stating that my discussions of love are precluded by the notion that they are directed at individuals that have and understand faith. I appologize for not stipulating this. Again, my discussion is not geared toward the unbeliever (without faith), but to the believer (with faith). I hope this helps clear the air. You wrote: "Further more I never said or implied that someone motivated by love would perpetuate an act of malice or evil against his neighbor so why suggest that I did?" No, but you did state or otherwise imply that we CAN love and NOT display our love by "deeds" or works. I tell you plainly that anyone who behaves this way DOES NOT love, and is a liar. If I TRULY love, I will most certainly perform the works of a loving person. Does this help clarify the matter? You wrote: "Yes 1 John 3:18 "Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue, but in deed and truth." does say exactly what I mean. And I’m also sure you have known that for some time. Which makes me ask, why act like you didn’t know what I was saying?W hy the accusations? Why challenges? Why do you always try to stir the pot? What is your agenda?" I refer you to the previous answere, as describing true love verses someone who just lies about their love. Additionaly, I reply in the manner I reply because of your use of the word "junk," and your comparison of (my interpretations?) to John Lennon's guru. What you write there is really just a method of avoiding using profanity to describe what I wrote, while making all the same implications. It is nomenclature that is directly beligerant, and expressed vehemently, and I wish to reply to it in a sound fashion that will bring us both to truth. Which brings me to another question; You wrote: "Why do you always try to stir the pot? What is your agenda?" My agenda is to edify, and I really wish you hadn't accused me of "stirring the pot." I will point out that my response to your first post was one of approval, quoted here: "Good verses, EdB... more of the same!" I appologize if you took this as a slight. To conclude, You wrote: "While no one is denying that Love is essential if you notice it’s placement, first we must believe then we should allow love to motivate our actions, service, obedience, maintaining our faith. That is why saying all we need is love is patently false we first must have salvation through Jesus Christ. And once we have salvation if we don’t put action to our love we have nothing more than a word." I now understand thouroughly the confusion we share in this discussion, and I gladly point out that my exhortations to love are to the FAITHFUL Christians, and not directed towards the unfaithful, who obviously need faith! Does this all help you? Let's continue this conversation and really come to such agreement as we are commanded through love! I look forward to your reply! |