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1 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92678 | ||
What you are not understanding is that the gospel must be heard in order to believe--again look at Romans 10. Those appearing before the throne in Rev 20 are not all believers waiting to receive rewards. The text does not say that. What it says is that each gets judged according to his works. But you must believe that some are. What about them? And never mind rewards at this point. Lets just think about the salvation unto life eternal in Heaven. Those that stand there who have done good deeds are the ones Jesus died for [though He surely died for all]. Hence their names are written in the book of life along side those of us who have had Christ preached to us and have believed on Him for salvation.. Now the question becomes: What did you/we do with Christ? We have the greater blessing and the greater responsibility inasmuch as we can be and SHOULD BE His disciples. Those others knew nothing of being "born again". Who will receive the greater reward given the opportunity we have and don't seize it? Who is the promise of Pentecost for, if not for us? |
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2 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92681 | ||
Hello Ken, Yes, those who have heard the gospel have the greater responsibility because they have had greater revelation. But that does not mean that those who are a law unto themselves (as it states in Romans 2) are believers. Again, they have never heard the gospel which is required for belief according to Romans 10. Steve |
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3 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92684 | ||
Again, they have never heard the gospel which is required for belief according to Romans 10. But is it required for salvation or those who never heard and yet lived with a hope and fear of there being a God?......and at this point I refuse to begin repeating myself. |
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4 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92721 | ||
Hello Ken, Of course it's required for those who have never heard. What does Scripture say concerning that state of all men? Romans 3:10-18 (ESV) as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one; [11] no one understands; no one seeks for God. [12] All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one. [13] Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive. The venom of asps is under their lips. [14] Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness. [15] Their feet are swift to shed blood; [16] in their paths are ruin and misery, [17] and the way of peace they have not known. [18] There is no fear of God before their eyes." So how can any be living in hope and fear of God? This is an invalid premise. Steve |
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5 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92729 | ||
So I guess everyone went to hell to be in torment for eternity. Too bad they never heard the gospel. BTW, who was Paul quoting that you ripped from it's moorings? When was it written? |
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6 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92733 | ||
Hello Ken, Yes, it IS too bad they never heard the gospel. I didn't rip the verses from their moorings. Paul did. But to answer your questions: Who was Paul quoting? Psalm 14:1-3; 53:1-3; Psalm 5:9; Psalm 140:3; Psalm 10:7; Isaiah 59:7f; Psalm 36:1. When was it written? At various times through Israel's history. Steve |
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7 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92738 | ||
"Yes, it IS too bad they never heard the gospel." ----------- Well I guess Rev 20.12 can't ever apply, in your mind. If it does you have some reconciling and explaining to do. since it has NOTHING to do with rewards, as good Baptist teaching would have you believe, but EVERYTHING to do with one's salvation. Rewards have to do the son's of God who have fought the good fight of faith and have overcome the evil one per 1 John 1 and not those you confess the name of Christ on Sunday, by showing up, but never mention His name at any other time. Rev. 20:12-15 (KJV) And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. [13] And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. [14] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. [15] And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
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8 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92746 | ||
Hello Ken, Certainly it can happen. People will be judged according to their works. That's what it says. You are correct that it says nothing of rewards. I never said that it did. I said people will get what they deserve. What it does NOT say in the passage you've quoted is that anyone will receive salvation at this judgement. Steve |
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9 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92750 | ||
"What it does NOT say in the passage you've quoted is that anyone will receive salvation at this judgement" Then why a have a judgment at all if not for the possibility of pardon or a lessoning of the sentence? Why not call it the great white condemnation? What do the verses imply, Steve? |
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10 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92756 | ||
Hello Ken, Because the sins must be judged before the condemnation and punishment is enforced. The verses do not imply any hope. Steve |
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11 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92763 | ||
get real! Then I guess THOSE who lived good lives as best they could, being lead only be their consciences and having never heard the name of Jesus and the promises in Him, will go to hell? Sorry. You need more study. |
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12 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92767 | ||
Hello Ken, The book of Romans has all this. Steve |
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13 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92769 | ||
Luke 16:19 (YLT) 'And it came to pass, that the poor man died, and that he was carried away by the messengers to the bosom of Abraham—and the rich man also died, and was buried; Do you think that poor man knew about Jesus? |
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14 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92824 | ||
Hello Ken, I may not have made myself clear. Those who died before Christ were saved by faith in God. That faith was based on His revealed word. Those who die after Christ are saved by faith in God--specifically the person and work of the Lord Jesus. That faith is based on His revealed word. Did the poor man know Jesus? No. He died before. Steve |
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15 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92827 | ||
"Those who died before Christ were saved by faith in God. That faith was based on His revealed word" What revealed word would that have been? ---------------------------------- "Did the poor man know Jesus? No. He died before" Oh, I see. Well what saved to Abraham's bossom? |
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16 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92831 | ||
Hello Ken, What revealed word? Whatever direct revelation God had given up to that point--words spoken to Adam and Eve and Cain; Law given to Moses; whole of the Old Testament. I've already told what saved to Abraham's bosom--the direct revelation of God, His word. Steve |
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17 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92835 | ||
"I've already told what saved to Abraham's bosom--the direct revelation of God, His word." Naah...too vague and legalistic. Too Baptist in your thinking. The story Jesus tells mentions nothing of the poor man knowing anything about anything and being of a contrite nature. What does 'contrite' mean? Do you think it has any value in the scheme of things spiritually? |
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18 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | srbaegon | 92846 | ||
Hello Ken, That's twice now that you've called me Baptistic. Should I be pleased or insulted? :-) Too vague and legalistic? How about this? Romans 9:4 (ESV) They are Israelites, and to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises. Here Paul explains that only the Jews had God's truth, and only the Jews were in God's favor. It's true that Jesus never mentions these things, but the point He was talking to the Pharisees about money (Luke 16:14) and was making a point that riches won't do any good if you're not using it rightly and going to hell. Sure a contrite heart has value: Psalm 51:17 (ESV) The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise. Steve |
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19 | Born into the Kingdom of God? | Luke 16:18 | Ken hepting | 92847 | ||
That's twice now that you've called me Baptistic. Should I be pleased or insulted? :-) LOL!! |
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