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1 | Baptized by Holy Spirit? | Matt 3:11 | DocTrinsograce | 239386 | ||
Hello, Justin... Welcome to the forum! I checked several commentaries, and it appears that the consensus is that the fire is a reference to how the Holy Spirit operates upon the soul. This not a reference to some kind of "second blessing" -- nor are there any didactic references to such a teaching. Rather, the Holy Spirit comes upon and indwells a person upon salvation (Titus 3:5-7). In Him, Doc |
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2 | Baptized by Holy Spirit? | Matt 3:11 | Ed O. | 239537 | ||
Doc, speaking about the Holy Spirit this is what you had posted,---"This not a reference to some kind of "second blessing" -- nor are there any didactic references to such a teaching. Rather, the Holy Spirit comes upon and indwells a person upon salvation (Titus 3:5-7)."----- My question is this, prior to Pentecost, the 120 people who were there were saved and had the Holy Spirit based on the belief in Jesus. In fact some of them received the Holy Spirit when Jesus breathed on them per John 20:22, so why wasn't being baptized at Pentecost a "second blessing" and something a believer should want to seek? In Christ, Ed O. | ||||||
3 | Baptized by Holy Spirit? | Matt 3:11 | DocTrinsograce | 239541 | ||
Hi, Ed O... As you know, there are many narratives in the Scriptures. However, just because something happens in narrative certainly does not mean that that thing is normative for everyone. None of us would try to be healed by dipping seven times in the Jordon, or make a shortcut by walking on water, or go fishing in order to pay our taxes, etc. Narrative does not serve that purpose. If Pentecost was normative for all Christians, what does that make of Christ's specific references to it? More problematic than that is Peter's explanation of it as the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy. Etc. If you would like to read a good discussion of the question, with sound admonitions on proper exegesis of Scripture, and, by the way, a Pentecostal elder to boot, I would highly recommend Gordon D. Fee's book "How to Read the Bible for All Its Worth." You can get it from Amazon for under ten bucks. By the way, if we are numbering blessings, I would prefer (1) election, (2) predestination, (3) gospel call, (4) inward call, (5) regeneration, (6) conversion, (7) justification, (8) sanctification, and (9) glorification. And, yes, every one of the redeemed does and will seek those. But better yet, they are promised! Talk about blessings! In Him, Doc |
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4 | Baptized by Holy Spirit? | Matt 3:11 | EdB | 239542 | ||
There is an aspect that many never talk about and that is the yielding of our will to the Holy Spirit. Yes we are given the Holy Spirit at salvation but at that point in time none of know how to yield our will to Him. In fact many never learn. I believe what Ed O is talking about and what is being described in the Book of Acts is the disciples yielding to the Holy Spirit and letting Him move through them. Is that normative? Yes to those that allow themselves to yield. |
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