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1 | woman pastors | Matt 14:30 | JCrichton | 136817 | ||
Hi, CiY! It is good to combine Scripture... it is in light of Scripture that we can understand other Scripture... Yet, when we interprete Scripture we must adhere to Scripture and not to our personal views or inclinations... If Paul had suggested that men and women served in the Chruch in the same offices why are there no females named as aspostles? Why did all the references to ministry is to male apostles and disciples? Did Jesus make a mistake and forgot that there were females living among the 12 men He chose as His disciples? And when faced with the very first internal administrative crisis, why did the Twelve not name a few of the female counterparts to care for the widows? They chose seven men to tend to the needs of the Church's widows! (Acts 6:1-7) When we read a novel or a non-fiction story we can speculate till the end of the story... Scripture does not allow for speculation, we either accept God's Word as His Command or we circumvent the Truth! God Bless! Angel |
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2 | woman pastors | Matt 14:30 | CiY127 | 136832 | ||
Christ chose 12 apostles from among the disciples. And using the same logic they were all Jews so does that mean apostles can only be Jews? And what about all the women in Romans 16, were they just kitchen maids? | ||||||
3 | woman pastors | Matt 14:30 | JCrichton | 136921 | ||
"just kitchen maids" Hi, CiY! When we read Scripture we find that there were women who owned property, and managed businesses... in some cases it would be the affluent females in the various townships that would assist the Way... to relegate all Christians females to kitchen maid status would be a masochist-neanderthalian distortion of the Christian womanhood! ...conversely, expecting Christ to seek out the gentiles and to choose His disciples from among the gentiles would only demonstrate a shallow knowledge of Scripture... We can spar forever, thrusting and parrying back and forth with interpretation and innuendos, yet the fact is that Scripture does not support female apostles and preachers--every single account of a person going to the Jews or Gentiles to minister to them has been a male... If we apply your prior interpretation (Paul meaning that God made us all (male and female)Apostles, and preachers, etc...) to Scripture that tells us that we are all a kingdom of priests (1 Peter 2:9)--made priests onto God by Jesus--what need is there of apostles and ministers and preachers? Could we not just minister onto ourselves and our children?... but to made void Scripture by our liberal interpretations was never God's design... though we are all called to be part of a priestly kingdom not all are confided with the task to minister to God's people... this is why Paul says that not all are called to be Apostles, or prophets, or preachers or teachers... (1 Corinthians 12:28-31) More often than not, liberal interpretation of Scripture misses the totality of Doctrine! (James 3:1;) Though we are all called to the priestly kingdom (to be holy), there are some who are charged with the task of ministering (Romans 10:13-15); but it is God who calls them to the various offices in the Body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:4-11). Liberal interpretation of Scripture only confounds man and limits Scripture... some are adamant that there is nothing for us to do but claim Christ as our safe passage to eternity... that to say that we add to Christ's efforts is apostasy--yet Scriture tells us that Salvation is offered to us gratis but that it requires two parts to seal the Covenant and that it is our responsibility to accept God's terms and to build ourselves into God's Living Temple (1 Peter 2:5)... so this holy priesthood is the same Command from old to be holy as God, our Father, is Holy! (1 Peter 1:16; Leviticus 11:44; 19:2) Though all of the children of Israel were called to the priesthood in the terms of keeping themselves holy... there were specific people who were called to occupy the actual office of the priesthood--all male, of course. This priesthood has never ceased to exist as Jesus established His Church and appointed some to be Apostles--all male; and these in turn initiated others as apostles who would continue their service to God and His people (Acts 6:1-4; 8:14-25; 1 Timothy 4:13-16; 1 Timothy 3:1-13; Titus 1:4-11). God Bless! Angel |
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4 | woman pastors | Matt 14:30 | Aspiring Overseer | 136923 | ||
Angel, I was with you until your last sentence where you state that the Apostles initiated others as Apostles. Have I understood you correctly or did you mean disciples? I am unfamiliar with any Apostle being appointed by anyone other than Christ. AO |
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5 | woman pastors | Matt 14:30 | JCrichton | 136928 | ||
Hi, AO! An Apostle is one that is sent... though we term "Apostle" only the thirteen... thouse who were sent by them they too were "sent" or "apostles". I know this is treading on semantics... so if it is better understood "sent," then please substitute "apostles" with "sent." God Bless! Angel |
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6 | woman pastors | Matt 14:30 | Aspiring Overseer | 136955 | ||
Is a disciple of Christ not also sent by God? By your definition we would still have Apostles today. I am not aware of any who claim to be Apostles other than in denominations. AO |
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7 | woman pastors | Matt 14:30 | JCrichton | 137078 | ||
Hi, AO! I will not venture into denominational discourse... rather I would have you examine Scripture: Did Christ establish His Church to last 50 to 100 years (the expected life span of the youngest of the Thirteen)? Did Christ/Holy Spirit give some to be apostles only for the finite time of that limited existence of the Church (50 to 100 years)? Does Scripture not tells us that till John the Baptist were the Law and the prophets, and does Paul not tell us that there is an order in the Church (which John happened not to be a participant since he was decapitated by the order of Herodias--through her daughter) of which the first are the apostles, then the prophets...? We can rationalize and interprete Scripture as we please... but Scripture, though at times seeming to contradict itself, will always offer a more complete doctrine than many choose to accept! I can only offer you Scripture... you be the final judge: a) if the Church ceased to exist for over 15 hundred years only to be reinvented by the twentieth century's "truly spiritual theologians", b) if there is a perennial existence of the Church as Jesus foretold or if new agers ("today's Christians) determine for the Holy Spirit what the Church of Christ is, c) if the Holy Spirit has no power to "send" or institute apostles to lead the Church or if the Holy Spirit took a 15 hundred year sabbatical to rethink the structure of the Church! I like to clarify to you that I do not seek to take liberties fueled by intellect (having organized crime syndicate "send" someone to take care of "business" does not make that person an apostle! Nor does paying a fee to an organization makes a person a representative of Christ!)... my offer is what Scriture offers: Christ established a perennial Church, one that even Satan cannot destroy, and, through the Holy Spirit, He established the Body with all its members, including the Apostles and prophets... Finally it is the option of every human being to accept the Body of Christ as He established it or to redefine it--after all there are over 20k Christian denominations world-wide! God Bless! Angel God Bless! Angel |
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