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1 | Significance of three pecks? | Matt 13:33 | Mommapbs | 148060 | ||
Searcher56 - imo, this post is confusing. Are you saying that God attaches no significance to His words, even words that are numbers? mommapbs |
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2 | Significance of three pecks? | Matt 13:33 | DocTrinsograce | 148066 | ||
Hi, Momma! I'd hazzard that he means that God attaches the usual significance to numbers that we attach to them. God doesn't secret things in numbers every time we see a number in Scripture. In Him, Doc |
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3 | Significance of three pecks? | Matt 13:33 | mark d seyler | 148081 | ||
How do we know what meanings God did or did not intend to accompany the numbers, names, places, and other details found in the Bible? The study of the meanings of names is especially interesting, for anyone who has done that. You may say, "Oh, its just a name - you put too much meaning into it." But the simple truth is that the names of Biblical characters often have specific significance to the story being told, right up to the central Characture, Jesus. The Bible is the story of how God becomes our salvation - Jesus. Is there anything in the Divinely inspired Word of God that is arbitrary, haphazard, or insignificant? Where is the Biblical evidence of that? My Bible tells me that every word is important. De 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live. Pr 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Lu 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. We may say that the study of numbers is Kabbalistic, but that places an unfair label on those who merely seek to learn everything God has put in His Word. I would imaging that Mommapbs isn't actually trying to supercede God's Word with searching out some "hidden wisdom" or mystical path to a higher plane. We know perfectly well that there are truths in the Bible that are easily known with a casual reading, and other truths that are only known with deeper study. But none of what we learn by deeper examination will ever contradict what we plainly read. Why would we not think that the Book given to mankind by the infinite, and infinitely creative God would not have depth and intricacy to last a lifetime, to show His great works among men? I know many people use this to try to substantiate non-Biblical concepts, but is that a reason to cast out the baby, or just the bathwater? Please forgive me if I have offended anyone. Love in Christ, Mark |
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4 | Significance of three pecks? | Matt 13:33 | DocTrinsograce | 148100 | ||
Hi, brother Mark... I did not write that every (original language) word of Scripture was not intended, pure, inspired, necessary, planned, important, or significant. Indeed, on the contrary, I have attempted over time to clearly state the opposite! What I wrote was that God attaches the usual meanings to numbers -- and most words -- that we attach to them. This is called communication. If I send a message to you, my intent is for you to understand, therefore I use a convention called language. When I say "brother Mark" I always mean you, I do not mean "brother Kalos", the chair on which I sit, or the philosophy of epistemology. An alternative meaning behind the three pecks mentioned in Matthew 13:33 is never mentioned anywhere else in Scripture. Why would Christ mean anything more than exactly what He was saying? Jesus often spoke of things commonplace to His hearers (another good communication technique). Indeed, as John Gill points out, the Talmud states that it is traditional for women to make bread using three "measures" of wheat. When the Scriptures explain the significance of a number (as, for example, in Gen 41:26) we can say something conclusive. Anything else is speculation -- albeit interesting -- but still speculation. In Him, Doc PS If you would like to see a concise statement about what I believe regarding Scripture, please read the following link -- parts of which I have quoted in a number of previous posts. http://www.vor.org/truth/1689/1689bc01.html Furthermore, I am very comfortable with the Chicago Statement of Biblical Hermeneutics http://www.origins.org/articles/00site_chicago.html |
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5 | Significance of three pecks? | Matt 13:33 | kalos | 148115 | ||
'Scripture Twisting: Read me First!' (continued) [Doc: Your post reminds me of something I had read some time back. I address it to you, but I'm hoping the other participants in this thread will read it, too. --Kalos] 'Laziness 'Part and parcel of this abuse of Scripture is laziness. That is, most people simply don't take the trouble to read the context or to do their homework on the meaning of the Bible. And even when they are confronted with overwhelming evidence that is contrary to their view, they often glibly reply, "That's just your interpretation." This kind of response sounds as if all interpretations are up for grabs, as though all interpretations are equally plausible. Such a view is patently false. Take the following sentence as an example: "My mother likes climbing vines." One interpretation of these words is not just as valid as another. This sentence cannot mean "My father is an auto mechanic." "Mother" does not mean "Father"; "likes" does not mean "is"; "climbing vines" is not a synonym for "auto mechanic." Language cannot be twisted in this manner. Now, without a context, there are, however, two distinct options for the sentence in question. Either "My mother likes vines that climb" or "My mother likes to climb vines." Which is the right view? The only way to tell is to look at the context of the utterance--or to ask the author of the sentence! Both things are done in biblical interpretation. Sometimes the context solves the problem; other times, the more we know about an author, the better able we are to determine his meaning. But one recipe for missing the meaning of the text is to be too casual about it. After all, did not Paul tell Timothy, "Study to show yourself approved"?' ____________________ 'Scripture Twisting: Read me First! 'by Daniel B. Wallace, Ph.D. (http://www.bible.org/docs/soapbox/twist1.htm) |
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