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1 | Unclean food for the Christian? | Lev 1:1 | kalos | 105957 | ||
Are We Not Subject To The Law of God? Romans 3:31 (ESV) Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law. (Amplified) Do we then by [this] faith make the Law of no effect, overthrow it or make it a dead letter? Certainly not! On the contrary, we confirm and establish and uphold the Law. (GOD'S WORD version) Are we abolishing Moses' Teachings by this faith? That's unthinkable! Rather, we are supporting Moses' Teachings. (From "Not Subject To The Law of God?" Part 8. www.yashanet.com/library/under8.htm All following Scripture quotes are from the GOD'S WORD version of the Bible, unless otherwise noted.) "The teaching that 'we are free from the Torah,' is a product of hundreds of years of anti-Semitic theology and is in opposition to Scripture. The 'New Testament,' when put back into its Hebrew context, says this about the Torah and believers in Yeshua:" Matthew 5:17 "Don't ever think that I came to set aside Moses' Teachings or the Prophets. I didn't come to set them aside but to make them come true. James 2:10 If someone obeys all of God's laws except one, that person is guilty of breaking all of them. Matt 19:17 Jesus said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you want to enter into life, obey the commandments." Revelation 12:17 The serpent became angry with the woman. So it went away to fight with her other children, the ones who keep God's commands and hold on to the testimony of Jesus. John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey my commandments. John 15:10 If you obey my commandments, you will live in my love. I have obeyed my Father's commandments, and in that way I live in his love. Romans 3:31 Are we abolishing Moses' Teachings by this faith? That's unthinkable! Rather, we are supporting Moses' Teachings. 1 John 2:3 We are sure that we know Christ if we obey his commandments. 2:4 The person who says, "I know him," but doesn't obey his commandments is a liar. The truth isn't in that person. 2:5 But whoever obeys what Christ says is the kind of person in whom God's love is perfected. That's how we know we are in Christ. 1 John 5:3 (Revised Standard Version) For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments (Greek: entole [Strong's #1785]: ethically used of the commandments in the Mosaic law). And his commandments (entole) are not burdensome. |
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2 | Unclean food for the Christian? | Lev 1:1 | Kwigger | 105962 | ||
Kalos, Nice post. What do you make of all these verses? It looks to me like obedience to the Laws of God may be expected and even in our own best interest. Hmmmmm. |
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3 | Unclean food for the Christian? | Lev 1:1 | kalos | 105966 | ||
Kwigger: What do I make of all the verses I quoted? I take them at face value. I don't know of any other way to interpret them. Also, I would like to reiterate what I posted before: Many times I have heard people say that in Matthew 5:17, the word "fulfill" means to abolish. If that be true, then Jesus is saying: "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law...I did not come to abolish, but to abolish." --kalos |
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4 | Unclean food for the Christian? | Lev 1:1 | Kwigger | 105967 | ||
Kalos, I've spent some time with this passage in the past. I'm not sure I understand what point you are making. I think "fulfill" means something more like illuminate or elaborate on. I was a little surprised and I found it interesting that "fulfill" in 17 and "fulfilled" in 18 are translated from two entirely different Greek words. Break out your Strong's and let me know what you think. If you take these passages at face value, is your behavior interpreted as "Jewish" by alot of Christians? Are you a sabbath keeper? Do you observe the feasts and eat kosher? Just curious. Kharis and shalom, Kwigger |
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5 | Unclean food for the Christian? | Lev 1:1 | kalos | 105973 | ||
Kwigger: My point is it is a contradiction to say fulfill means abolish. To do so is to make Matthew 5:17 contradict itself. The point I am making is that Jesus did not come to abolish the law, make it of no effect, do away with it, undo it, or overthrow it. I am not a sabbath keeper, but I do know that the Sabbath has not been changed to Sunday. Sunday was not, is not now and never will be the Sabbath. I neither observe the feasts nor eat kosher. Peace, kalos |
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6 | Unclean food for the Christian? | Lev 1:1 | Morant61 | 105977 | ||
Greetings Kalos! It is good to see that an old timer is still hanging around! :-) May I throw out a question for consideration? How does v. 18 relate to v. 17? I note that v. 18 includes an 'until' clause. My understanding of this passage is similar to that expressed in the Bible Knowledge Commentary concerning Rom. 10:4: ************************************** It introduces a statement that is crucial to Paul’s explanation of Israel’s stumbling — Christ is the end of the Law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes. The word translated 'end' (telos) stands in the emphatic first position in the Greek sentence. It means that Christ is the designed end (termination) or Purpose-Goal of the Law (cf. Gal. 3:24), the Object to which the Law pointed. The Law did not and could not of itself provide righteousness before God for individuals (cf. Rom. 3:20; 7:7). But Christ fulfilled the Law (Matt. 5:17-18) by keeping it perfectly during His sinless life (cf. John 8:46) and then gave His life in payment for the penalty of sin and the broken Law (cf. Eph. 2:15; Col. 2:13-14). The Law then pointed to Him as the Source of the God - provided righteousness it could not supply (Gal. 3:24). A godly Jew who trusted Yahweh and followed the Levitical system, including the sin offering and the trespass offering, would most likely be inclined to respond to Christ by faith and would receive God’s righteousness (i.e., be justified; Acts 13:39; Rom. 3:24; 4:3, 5). He then could meet the requirements of the Law by the indwelling Holy Spirit (8:4). Conversely, a Jew who sought by works to establish his own righteousness would not recognize Christ as 'the end of the Law' and would stumble over Him. **************************************** Take care my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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7 | Unclean food for the Christian? | Lev 1:1 | kalos | 105987 | ||
Tim: "Old"-timer? Who's old? It'll be another 14 months before I turn 60. :-) How does verse 18 relate to verse 17? I don't know. It's something for me to research and think about. --kalos P.S. Check your email later. |
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8 | Unclean food for the Christian? | Lev 1:1 | Hank | 105991 | ||
Kalos and Tim: I went and done some researching -- real deep stuff it was -- on how verse 18 relates to verse 17. And, lo and behold, in 12 different translations and 3 paraphrases, verse 18 comes right after verse 17 in ever one of them. Also, I up and discovered that verse 17 comes right before verse 18 without nary a exception. I'm ever so happy to help you fellers on this and won't charge you a cent neither. Jest let ole Hank know if'n I kin hep you all with anythin' else, hear? --Hank | ||||||
9 | Unclean food for the Christian? | Lev 1:1 | Morant61 | 106007 | ||
Greetings Hank! Why didn't you write sooner my friend? Here I was doing all this research for nothing! ;-) I'm glad your not going to charge me though, since I am broke! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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