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1 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | sethknorr | 232845 | ||
PART 2 OF 2 Here are the 9 other commandments reiterated by both Jesus and another NT writer. Commandment 1 (Matthew 22:36-40 and 1 John 5:21) Commandment 2 (Revelation 2:14 and 1 John 5:21) Commandment 3 (Matthew 12:31 and 1 Timothy 6:1) Commandment 5 (Matthew 19:19 and Ephesians 6:2-3) Commandment 6 (Matthew 5:21-22 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 7 (Matthew 5:27-28 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 8 (Matthew 15:19-20 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 9 (Mark 7:22-23 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 10 (Mark 7:22-23 and Romans 13:9) This is not the case with the 4th commandment. After Jesus death on the cross, no where do we see Paul or any other writer in the New Testament commanding Sabbath observance like they did on these nine other commandments. When we come to the Sabbath we see the contrary. The fact is the 10 commandments is the old covenant which was abolished. But Nine of the commandments where reinstated into the new covenant, which is the law of Christ. Deuteronomy 9:9 "When I went up to the mountain to receive the tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant which the LORD had made with you, then I remained on the mountain forty days and nights; I neither ate bread nor drank water. Deuteronomy 4:13 "So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments ; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone. Then Paul makes clear that this covenant of the Ten Commandments were abolished, culminated with verse eleven “For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.” 2 Corinthians 3:2-11 2You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. 4Such confidence we have through Christ toward God. 5Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, 6who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, 8how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? 9For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. 10For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. 11For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory. It is obvious that Jesus was not trying to keep the law of the Sabbath intact in the New Covenant. John 5:18 18For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. In Christ, Seth Knorr |
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2 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | elder4yhwh | 232874 | ||
I still find it quite amazing why God the Father would said "remember" out of the ten and Son come along and say it's not necessary anymore because he was there from the begining. Paul spoke of so many laws that's no longer valid because (after) of the death of Christ. Now certain laws he was clearly refering to (Acts 15:5; Act 8:2) Now in Col 2nd Chapter it appears here that he was speaking to Jews (only) based on the wording of the letter. I believe we can agree that everything stated in that chapter is Jewish based agreed??? I can't understand how you get Paul is abolishing the Commandments in this chapter. I look at that as him saying that the commandments that was written on tables of stone was not enough becuase it was not in them (Jer 31:31-34) God gave the New Covennt out before Christ even appeared here on earth so if whoever say "New Covenant" start in Jeremiah 31 because that's where God started. Now I understand that salvation was only given to the Jews but becuase of Christ death I have that same "rights" as the natural born Jew. (Rom 9) Seth the Jews were tryinig to kill him becuase they thought he was putting himself above God. Where in the New Testament that Jesus said He's writing a new coveant? Here Paul says: now new commandment" it doesn't state which one he's refering to but he does say the "old" so once again what was the old commandment he was refering to?? I'm understand the persudsion he's refering to the Old Testament myself. The thing I don't get is Paul was a Jew teaching on the Sabbath (Gospel) it plainly says he did it every sabbath day and since he followed Christ's teaching I will do as well. Now you gave the scriptures concerning the 9 commandments I can give you alot commandment number 4 where it's valid to day for everyone of those who chohse to keep it holy |
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3 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | DocTrinsograce | 232875 | ||
You don't need to see a bifurcation. See, instead, the harmony of Law and Gospel. “The discourse which our Lord delivered on this occasion entirely corresponds with the new era which it marked in the history of God's dispensations. The revelation from Sinai, though grafted on a covenant of grace (i.e. the Abrahamic: Gal. 3:19 - 'added'), and uttered by God as the Redeemer of Israel, was emphatically a promulgation of law. Its direct and formal object was to raise aloft the claims of the Divine righteousness, and meet, with repressive and determined energy, the corrupt tendencies of human nature. The Sermon on the Mount, on the other hand, begins with blessing. It opens with a whole series of beatitudes, blessing after blessing pouring itself forth as from a full spring of beneficence, and seeking, with its varied and copious manifestations of goodness, to leave nothing unprovided for in the deep wants and longing desires of men. Yet here also, as in other things, the difference between the New and the Old Testament is relative only, not absolute. There are the same fundamental elements in both, but these differently adjusted, so as fitly to adapt themselves to the ends they had to serve, and the times to which they respectively belonged. “'In the revelation of law there was a substratum of grace, recognized in the words which prefaced the ten commandments, and promises of grace in blessing also intermingled with the stern prohibitions and injunctions of which they consist. And so, inversely, in the Sermon on the Mount, while it gives grace the priority and the prominence, it is far from excluding the severer aspect of God's character and government. No sooner, indeed, had grace poured itself forth in a succession of beatitudes, than there appear the stern demands of righteousness and law-the very same law proclaimed from Sinai-and that law so explained and enforced as to bring fully under its sway the intents of the heart, as well as the actions of the life, and by men's relation to it determining their place and destinies in the Messiah's kingdom.' (P. Fairbairn).” --A. W. Pink, the Sermon on the Mount, chapter 9 |
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