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1 | special revelation vs general revelation | Ps 19:1 | Morant61 | 89108 | ||
Greetings Tim! Thanks for the response my friend! I kind of asked you a loaded question my friend. I am well aware that many teach that there is some sort of distinction between 'logos' and 'rhema', but Scripture doesn't bear this out. In fact, the two terms are often used interchangeably. Consider the following examples: *************************************** The terms 'logos' and 'rhema' are basically synonymous. The both refer to a spoken word, though 'logos' has a richer tradition in both philosophical and theological thought. The fact that they are synonymous can be illustrated from Scripture. Here are a couple of examples. 1) Consider Luke 9:44 - " 44 ?Let these words sink into your ears; for the Son of Man is going to be delivered into the hands of men.?" Here, 'logos' is used to refer to the words (or saying) about the betryal of the Son of Man. Now, look at Luke 9:45 - "But they did not understand this statement, and it was concealed from them so that they might not perceive it; and they were afraid to ask Him about this statement." Here, 'rhema' is used to refer to the statment Jesus just made in Luke 9:44. So, in the span of two verses, both terms are used to describe the same saying. 2) Luke 6:47 uses 'logos' to refer to Jesus' teaching, while Luke 7:1 uses 'rhema' to refer to His teaching. 3) John 8:43 uses 'logos' to refer to the words that the Jews could not hear, while John 8:47 uses 'rhema' to refer to the that they could not hear. 4) John 10:19 uses 'logos' to refer to the teaching that so upset the Jews, while John 10:21 uses 'rhema' to refer to the same teaching. 5) John 12:47-49 uses the terms interchangebly. There are other examples, but these should suffice. Both terms have as their basic meaning a spoken word. **************************************** While I do believe that God enlights us through His Spirit, the distinction made between these two words is really not valid. Both simply refer to something said or spoken. p.s. - Nice name my friend! ;-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | special revelation vs general revelation | Ps 19:1 | tj57h@cs.com | 89137 | ||
While I do believe that God enlights us through His Spirit. My greatest concern is that believers understand that we get revelation from the Spirit of God. I will not argue with you view, however there are many leaders of the Church that disagree with your point of view. Kenneth Hagan, Lester Summaral, Kenneth Copeland, Paul Chow (The Pastor of the largest Church in the world) and I believe this is were I first learned this teaching by reading one of his books. Although I do not believe every thing these men teach, many hold their teaching in very high regards. My concern I have for this forum is that there seems to be a slant toward exposing the perceived error, and little regard for supporting the teaching that is true, do you have any idea why? Outside of the facts that human beings naturally view things from a negative viewpoint. Do you not have anything positive to say about other things I have written? In love, Tim H. |
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3 | special revelation vs general revelation | Ps 19:1 | gracefull | 89151 | ||
Hi Tim, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but some here on the forum believe all these preachers and teachers are heretics. The discussion concerning these teachers'actual teaching falls on deaf ears here. It will be wise to just stick to scripture my brother. Keep posting! God bless |
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4 | special revelation vs general revelation | Ps 19:1 | Hank | 89163 | ||
gracefull writes to tj57H in Post No. 89151, "...some here on the forum believe all these preachers and teachers are heretics...it will be wise to just stick to Scripture, my brother..." ----- I submit to you, gracefull, that if "all these preachers and teachers" that you're talking about took your advice to Tim and stuck to Scripture, the number of forum users who consider their preaching and teaching heretical would diminish dramatically. I can't recall a single instance in which any regular member of this forum has termed any preacher or teacher a heretic unless the forum user gave ample and sound evidence from Scripture to support his position. The Christian has not merely the right but also the divine command to reprove and rebuke teaching that is clearly contrary to Scripture. Do you believe that everyone who claims to preach the truth does in fact do so, or does your observation of some of the beliefs and practices being carried out on the media and in various religious groups persuade you that there are false teachers and deceivers out there, masquerading as followers of Christ and heralds of His gospel? --Hank | ||||||