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1 | special revelation vs general revelation | Ps 19:1 | gracefull | 89375 | ||
"reasons far above our understanding does not answer." Here is where we disagree...I do not believe the reasons are beyond our understanding. One who is not receiving an answer should see for the reason, the correction, the enlightenment. I do not believe God leaves His children in the dark, but that if they remain in the dark by choice. WOF teaches that this is a progressive learning process and that the more time we spend in prayer and His Word, truly committed, the more we will mature in understanding what God has for so we can ASK CORRECTLY...Or in some cases, receive the promise, thanking God for the gift. "We can’t pretend to know God’s purpose but even in our sickness (not that God caused it) can have God’s purpose." No we can'tpretend to know but God is not hiding His will from us, we just do not hear all the time. Romans 8 26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. 28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? These verses are not saying that every circumstance of life are directed by God to form us. Many circumstance of life come against us from the adversary. The working for us is the promise that God has freely given us all things through Christ Jesus. Here again you fail to acknowledge that man can choose to rebel and blace himself in the hands of the adversary, man can believe the lies os Satan and not receive the promises of God...does that mean that not receiving the promises was orchastrated by God for their good? Here again the botom line of the issue rests with the question...did God provide healing through the atonement....or is it His instrument of chastening? I believe that By His Stripes I WAS healed...Not was healed if I fall in to the right category. God bless God bless |
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2 | special revelation vs general revelation | Ps 19:1 | EdB | 89384 | ||
Graceful Before you take off God has clearly stated there are things He has chosen not to reveal to us. Paul said we don't understand all that we see through the glass darkly. That is not up for argument. However I find in most cases the reason while not readily apparent when I'm going through them becomes crystal clear once I get through it. You take this verse by His stripes and refuse to look at it. First if it was true for physical healing James 5:14 would be in conflict with it. That can not be. Secondly Paul's admonishment to Tim to take wine for his stomach would be in conflict with it and that can not be. Third Paul's statement that he came and preached when he was sick and infirmed would be in conflict with it and that can not be. We have three places that stand in direct conflict with that verse if means what you say. We also have Chrsitians dying all over the world from disease that would be in conflict with that verse. Therefore doesn't that hint the verse as you interpret it is the problem? Then we move to Peter he quotes the same verse only here it can clearly be seen Peter is talking of spiritual healing. How if we apply Peter meaning to the verse that it is talking of spiritual healing and not physical let's see does it conflict with James? No! Does it conflict with what Paul to Timothy? No! Does it conflict with what Paul said about himself? No! Does it conflict with what we see in the Christian world not just in the USA? No! Yet you insist your interpretation is the correct one and mine is wrong. Think about it! I'm not saying if we are in Christ God doesn't heal us. I'm saying God allowed imperfection to inflict this world at the time of the fall. In this imperfection is disease. Jesus did not by his death remove that. God Himself said some would would get sick and die for taking communion wrong, yet they are still saved still in Christ and in this case I beleive God made them sick. EdB |
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