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1 | Did Jesus go to hell after dying? | Ephesians | ThomasTheNonDoubter | 26439 | ||
Yes He did. He had to pay the full penalty for our sins. Then, the good part, He was raised up, grabbed Satan and drug him around making a public specticle of him in front of his subserviants. | ||||||
2 | Did Jesus go to hell after dying? | Ephesians | kalos | 26463 | ||
Did Jesus spend 3 days in hell? "...the necessity of Jesus having to pay for our sins in hell, under the torment of Satan and his angels, [is] a teaching both unsubstantiated by and contrary to Scripture." (Note: numbers in parentheses are footnote references.) "Joyce Meyer shares the platform from time to time with Word of Faith teachers like, for example, Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Benny Hinn, and T.D. Jakes.(5) Chrisitan Research Institute (CRI) is critical of and concerned with some of her practices and teachings. "In her 1991 booklet, The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make, she teaches a hallmark doctrine of Faith theology, namely, that Christ had to suffer in hell to atone for our sins and be born again: "During that time He entered hell, where you and I deserved to go (legally) because of our sin….He paid the price there.…no plan was too extreme…Jesus paid on the cross and in hell….God rose up from His throne and said to demon powers tormenting the sinless Son of God, “Let Him go.” Then the resurrection power of Almighty God went through hell and filled Jesus….He was resurrected from the dead -- the first born-again man.(6) "Her assertions are not unlike those of leading Word of Faith proponent Kenneth Copeland, who also believes Christ’s death on the cross was not sufficient to atone for our sins, and that His work of redemption was completed by suffering in hell and being born again. According to Copeland, "When Jesus cried, “It is finished!” He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. There were still three days and nights to go through before He went to the throne….Jesus’ death on the cross was only the beginning of the complete work of redemption.(7) "[The] word of the living God went down into the pit of destruction and charged the spirit of Jesus with resurrection power! Suddenly His twisted, death-wracked spirit began to fill out and come back to life. He began to look like something the devil had never seen before. He was literally being reborn before the devil’s very eyes. He began to flex His spiritual muscles….Jesus was born again -- the first-born from the dead.(8) "According to a recently published interview with free-lance writer Ken Walker, however, Meyer contradictorily denies ever believing or teaching that Christ was born again in hell.(9) "Moreover, in her 1991 booklet, Meyer asserts that salvation is impossible without believing Jesus suffered in hell as the believer’s substitute. Meyer writes, “There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell.”(10) "While historic Christianity has debated the issue of whether or not Jesus actually descended into hell (e.g., to proclaim the gospel, declare victory, etc. [1 Peter 3:18-19), no orthodox believer ever held to the belief that Christ suffered and atoned for our sins in hell, rather than on the cross. Yet, Word of "Faith teachers, including Joyce Meyer, teach the necessity of Jesus having to pay for our sins in hell, under the torment of Satan and his angels -- a teaching both unsubstantiated by and contrary to Scripture. The entirety of Christ’s atoning work (i.e., His suffering and death in our place) occurred on the cross (e.g., 1 Peter 2:24), ending with His proclamation, “It is finished” (John 19:30). The Christ of Faith theology literally had to become sin, taking on the nature of Satan while in hell, thereby needing to be born again in hell before His resurrection could occur." To read the entire, uncut article quoted above, please go to: http://www.equip.org/search/ and in the search field enter the words Joyce Meyer. |
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3 | Did Jesus go to hell after dying? | Ephesians | ThomasTheNonDoubter | 26469 | ||
Hank Hanagraph emphatically does not believe in the power of the Holy Spirit like miricle healing, slain in the spirit, nothing. His main ministry is to cause division and unbelief in the body, no wonder your messed up. | ||||||
4 | Did Jesus go to hell after dying? | Ephesians | kalos | 26475 | ||
ThomasTND: It is true that Hanegraaff does not believe in the "slain in the spirit" phenomenon. What is your point? Many people do not believe in being slain in the spirit as it is defined by the Word of Faith movement and the Brownsville Revival. Are all of these people also out to cause division and unbelief in the body? Other than that, you can't prove one thing you've said about Hanegraaff. You don't have the first idea of what his main ministry is. It is you who are messed up. Changing the subject and trying to discredit the messenger does not disprove the message. It's an old trick, but it's been tried so many times on this forum that most people don't fall for it. Moreover, Jesus I know, and I know about Hanegraaff, but WHO ARE YOU? (See Acts 19:15.) |
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5 | Did Jesus go to hell after dying? | Ephesians | ThomasTheNonDoubter | 26559 | ||
I have heard him say with his own words, paraphrasing, that miricles are not for today, that they were only for the distant past and that speaking in toungues and other related Holy Spirit manefestations, he would not believe in. I will not enter into a definite assumption of what they are up to. My main argument with that person was making claims and not backing them up with scripture. If we are slaves of Christ, why do we tell God what we will believe in and what we won't and if He doesn't like it, tough luck. We are to come unto Him as a child, not a thick headed corporate lawyer. If the men who were baptised with the Holy Spirit where not seen to be rebellious when Jesus told them to take the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, how can we assume we have any authority to take what we feel like and tell God what not to give us. Whose the god here anyway? You keep referring to truths as if they originated from the Brownsville Revival. I've met the pastor of that church and I've never seen a pastor who was more careful about walking in total truth and never making a decision without authorizion from God. Consequently, the book of Acts is happening in your face down there, which would have Hank screaming at the top of his lungs for all to stop, simply because he didn't believe in it. I wasn't discrediting him I was just demanding that he back up the statements that several of the largest ministries were nothing more than liers because they didn't believe as his god, Hank. |
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