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1 | Question #5 for tremere123 | Exodus | 2 Ti 2:15 | 67843 | ||
In Heb. chapter 6:1-6 Talks about leaving the principles of the our doctrine which ultimately came from Jesus. Then it goes on to tell what our principle doctrine is. "Not laying againt he foundation repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, and of the doctrine of babtisms (Jn3:3-5 we see is babtism of water and babtism of spirit) etc... then, after explaining the foundation and basic beliefs of our salvation, it goes on to say It is impossible for those who were ONCE ENLIGHTENED and have experienced all these things, to renew them AGAIN unto repentance seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh and put him to an open shame. They knew and then turned their back on the truth of God blaspheming the Holy Ghost. In Ro. chapter one it talks about the sinners who knew God or at least knew what was required of themselves (vs 32) but went ahead and sinned because they loved sin. Verse 28 states God finally just turned them over to a reprobate mind. In 2 Thes. 2:10-12 it says God sent the people a delusion that they should believe a lie becuase they had pleasure in unrighteousness and didn't receive a love for the truth. Then in verse 15 he warns the church to hold fast to their traditions. If we commit the only unforgivable sin which I believe is to be turning our back on God and leaving the principles of the Doctrine Jesus taught, having pleasure in sin, we become like the man who began to work in the feild and turned to look back. It's a scary thought but Jesus said he was unfit for the kingdom of God. I believe it is more than a mere sin but a actual turning from the foundations and basics of Truth. I believe if a person goes this far and loves sin so much they leave the principles of the doctrine of Christ it is impossible as they have become blinded and there would be only one way for them to come back. God would have to open their eyes to the truth and draw them back to himself as no man come to God unless God draws him. Thus this person is Lost as God does turn people over to themsleves. Anyhow you can interpret it any way you want but I feel it is farther then just blatent sin becuase many of us have played the role of the prodigal son and God has brought back. I believe blasphemy of the Holy Ghost is an actual rejection of the truth which you once experienced and knew for yourself. God bless |
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2 | Question #5 for tremere123 | Exodus | Hank | 67940 | ||
2 Tim 2:15: The gospel of Matthew gives a full account of what the unpardonable sin is [Matt. 12:22-32] and so does the gospel of Mark [Mark 3:1-30.] Both these accounts must be read in full context to be properly exegeted. Hebrews 6:1-6 is not speaking of this sin. --Hank | ||||||
3 | What would He. 6:1-6 be referring | Exodus | 2 Ti 2:15 | 67948 | ||
Hank maybe you are right. What do you think Heb 6 would be referring to then? "Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ....it is impossible for those who were once elightened...to renew again unto repentance, seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God and put him to an open shame." My thoughts have always just been THAT was blasphemy of the Holy Ghost. To have known God and yet reject and deny him and his teachings openly before men. Nothing else comes to mind that one could do and not be forgiven of. What do you think blasphemy of the Holy Ghost would be? Tell me what you think. God Bless Casey |
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4 | What would He. 6:1-6 be referring | Exodus | EdB | 67954 | ||
Casey Hebrews 6 4-8 is describing a state of being rather than a particular sin itself. It is saying that if a man who once was saved allows himself to become so comfortable with sin that he is no longer under conviction of the Holy Spirit (his conscience is seared) that there is no hope for him. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is to speak of the Holy Spirit in a manner that the Holy Spirit withdraws forever from you. Your no longer placed under conviction. Your dead to your sin. Admittedly the results in both cases are the same, your lost forever without hope of redemption. However in one the conscience is seared unable to hear the Holy Spirit in the other the Holy Spirit stops convicting you. The difference is one is an action or sin the other is a process a sinful life style. EdB |
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5 | What would He. 6:1-6 be referring | Exodus | 2 Ti 2:15 | 67957 | ||
You have a good point. My question would be does blasphemy have to come from ones mouth to equal blasphemy. I haven't studied it that deep as I don't plan on doing either (ha...) Ultimately it is God that called us out of darkness into his marvelous light, and he he draws us unto himself. The scripture says no man can come to God unless God draws him. Is it possible, the unforgivable sin is blaspheming the HG by turning your back on all his teachings all he has shown us and throwing it back in his face. The action of choosing sin and disregarding the truth as not truth. Having pleasure in sin and loving that lifestyle. Then once that person would do that God would stop calling them, stop drawing them as no man can come to God unless God draws him. I can't imagine any reason why God would stop calling someone to himself as he would that none should perish but all come to repentance. If a person commits the unforgivable sin then God might turn them over to a reprobate mind and letting them live in their ignorance doing what they will without the conviction of his spirit in their lives. I guess what I am trying to say is Gods mercy endureth forever, is grace surpasses our understanding. So why would God turn away one of his creation unless they have committed the unforgivable sin and cannot be saved. Jesus said unless you believe in him on the things he said that he was the messiah you would die in your sins. Possibly that was referring to blasphemy, rejecting him and his truth which would deem us unforgivable as we can only be saved through Jesus and his truth. To reject him is to reject God so you would be rejecting your own salvation you would be damned as you must believe on Jesus and his teachings. Thus it would make sense we couldn't be forgiven. I have heard ministers growing up say no this scripture blasphemy of the HG is only for those who have known God. The scripture however doesn't say this. It says blasphemy of the HG is the unforgivable sin. I believe if one isn't in church they can blaspheme the HG by rejecting Christ as our Savior. In HE. 6 I think it is building on this fact saying it is impossible if you have known or heard the Truth of his gospel and turn from it as your damning yourself by rejecting your salvation and then by rejecting him he also rejects us. God does turn people over to reprobate mind (see Ro. chptr 1, 2 Thes. chptr 2) So without our own convition and without God drawing us to himself it is impossible to be forgiven. God could forgive anyone as he paid the price right? I don't think it is unforgivable because God chooses or it offends him that much, but I think it is more we curse ourselves by rejecting him. Then it is unforgivable because we reject him. I may be way off, needless to say we shouldn't do either and we should be afraid of anything that concerns with the area. As Paul wrote we should avoid foolish questions, etc for they are vain and unprofiable. Either way brother the fact is we shouldn't err. Tonight I will actually spend some time studing the passages and study the word blasphemy and see what we can find out. GOD BLESS, Casey |
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