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1 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 59166 | ||
Hi kalos, Thanks for your input. I agree. Barry |
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2 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 59165 | ||
Hi Hank, Thanks for your input. I would agree if God is for us who can be against us. If God has chosen us then who can seperate us from the love of God. We could make the decision (free will) to walk away from God, but if he chose us in the first place I doubt that he would allow us to walk away. Barry |
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3 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 59110 | ||
Hi Melanie, I don't quite understand what you mean by backsliding. If God has chosen us, and takes responsibility to keep us, then we cannot backslide. Someone who says they have backsliden have actually self willingly denied the hope of our faith. To backslide really means you were never there in the first place, except in your own self willed mind. Barry |
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4 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 58879 | ||
Hi deb If my Father said to me, I have set up a lifestyle here for you and you will be lacking in nothing. You will have peace happiness and a wonderful life. There is one thing however that I don't want you to do, do not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good or evil. If you however choose to do so you will be banished from this heavenly place and you will die. Now I had no choice in what my Father had set up for me. I didn't have to say I will obey everything you have asked of me. However, if I wanted to sin and disobey my Father I would have to choose to ignore everything he had done to give me a good life and decide to eat from the tree of good and evil. The free willed choice is sin. Barry |
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5 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 58878 | ||
Hi Melanie, In answer to your first question Jesus said you must be born again. Now how are we born again, through our own choice or through God's choice? Jesus said we must be born of the water and the Spirit. How can we choose to do this? (John 3:3) John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. It is obvious from this scripture that God draws those he has chosen to believe. There is no choice involved. He chose those, who he draws, before the foundation of the earth, predestinating them for adoption as sons and daughters of God.. Ephesians 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will. Jesus never done or said anything which wasn’t from His Father. He didn’t make choices of whom he would heal, or talk to, or what to talk about. This was all from His Heavenly Father whom he followed without question John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. John 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. Jesus’ cried in the Garden of Gethsemene that with God all things are possible so couldn’t he have chosen another way for his plan to be fulfilled, but realising this was what he was asking, for God to change his plan at the last minute, he also acknowledged that through the will of God was the only way the plan could be executed. He wasn’t making a choice, He was saying god’s will must prevail over mans will. Mark 14:36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt. John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. Barry |
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6 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 58873 | ||
Hi Tim, One cannot choose to obey God, because not obeying means you have freely chosen not to. Perhaps if we see life as something God has created for each person. To see God in charge of each and every situation takes away any responsibility for us to think about. So one doesn't have to free willingly obey God, one only has to follow God, for to not follow God leads to eternal death. If however we decide through free will thinking to not follow God then we sin, and the wages of sin is death. Perhaps we all see God and his word as a joke that will not come to fruition, I am sure the two in the Garden believed that after the Serpent had said, "you will not die." Their deaths were not immediate but were certainly imminent in the future scheme of things. Jesus never done or said anything that did not come from his Heavenly Father first. He was constantly in touch through prayer and belief that all that God had set out to do in his plan for salvation would come to pass. Bartay |
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7 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 58748 | ||
If I was wrong I apoligise. However, by the tone of your last note it certainly appeared to be gender slanted rather than holisticly human. The whole free will debate revolves around man being an independant participater in the fight between good and evil. This is not true, either we do what God wants of us or we die being a servant to Satanic law. Jesus when he was tempted by the Devil had no choice to make. Because he was from God he was naturally going to do what God wanted of him. If he did decide to make a choice it would have been to go along with the Devils' temptations. However because he didn't give in to temptation, because he was following God, there was no choice to make. If however he decided by using his own mind, rather than God's scriptures in his word, to succumb to the temptation, then he would have been sinning. Which concludes that free will thinking is sinful because it goes against God's will. |
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8 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 58645 | ||
There is no point carrying on with this discussion as it is very apparent that your feminest leanings will cancell out any meaningful discussion | ||||||
9 | Church should be on Saturday, Sabbath? | Bible general Archive 1 | bartay | 58589 | ||
Colossians 2:16 ¶Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: bartay |
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10 | for today | OT general | bartay | 58587 | ||
Toungues, being a part of the Gifts given to believers for ministry must be for today or anyother day. To use the prayer language of the Holy Spirit, for we know not what to pray, is very uplifting. Romans 8:26 ¶Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. Bartay |
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11 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 58585 | ||
When God formed Adam from the dust of the ground, Adam had no input into whether he was to be formed or not. This was God’s choice entirely. Adam had no free will input into the decision. When Adam was placed into the Garden, this also was God’s choice and Adam had no participation into this decision either. Adam’s sojourn in the Garden was going along splendidly it wasn’t until Eve was made from the bone and flesh of Adam that the wheels began to fall off. Eve decided, through free will thought, that God’s command was something that didn’t need to be heeded to, and so instead she obeyed the promptings of the Serpent. Again this was not a free will decision the actual thoughts for the disobedience came from the Serpent. This was the first step towards being expelled from God’s presence. The second, and final step was Adam also being coerced into using his free willed thinking to obey the woman and disobey God. The scriptures encourage us to be servants or slaves to God and his commands. Romans 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. A servant does not use his own willed thoughts to serve, but does the bidding of him whom he serves. We are not only encouraged to be a servant to God but also to one another. This would seem to persuade against using free will to serve. Eve’s disobedience, in the Garden, was not a free will attempt at using her own mind to sum things up. It was a rebellious act of disobeying God, and allowing the promptings of the Devil (Serpent) to rule in her mind. She had shaken off the servitude to God and his righteousness, and instead chosen to become a servant to Satan. Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? There is only two powers at war in this our world. One is God the other is Satan. Man has no free willed power to shape anything in this world, for him or for others; all influence comes from one or the other of these powers Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. It would appear that so-called free will thinking is another word for rebellion against God and his word. The choice of obeying the Serpent and so disobeying God brings eternal death to those who profess the right. Our freedom in Christ is being a servant, and a servant obeys without choice. 1 Corinthians 7:22 For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant. Barry |
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12 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 58370 | ||
Are you then saying that if Jesus had decided to choose to not die, God's plan for the restoration of his creation would have then failed? I believe that Jesus choice was not a free will decision, it had already been decided what would prevail. Jesus always followed the Fathers commands, and to die was one of those commands. For us to follow Jesus we also must already have this direction, of not my will but yours, implanted within us. This can only be done through the Holy Spirit influencing our wills. Barry |
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13 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 5793 | ||
If predestination inevitably leads to regeneration, (I imagine you mean rebirth) and belief in Christ. Why then do we have the scripture that many are called but few are chosen? (Matthew 22:14)This would seem to me to be saying that all who are called, (predestined) will not be chosen because of unbelief. We also have those who come to Christ believing they were entitled to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. They said, Lord, Lord, we have prophesied, cast out demons, and done many wonderful things in your name. Jesus said, get away from me, I never knew you; depart from me you evildoers bartay |
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14 | So? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 5757 | ||
The calling of God is determined through the input of the Holy Spirit. To try and reach the stage that brings salvation by any other way, or means, will not result in the fruits of the Spirit being evident in ones life. Unless a new direction is being realised within your inner, and outer man, then there is something not right with the walk you are having with Jesus Christ. Many believe, through man's teaching, that the path they are treading is the one Jesus walked, but man is more times than not wrong, and it should be your own Spirit walk which determines the truth. So though many are called, few are chosen, (Matthew 22:14) because the truth is not in them. If God is not walking the walk, and talking the talk, through the indwelling Spirit, then we are walking and talking aimlessly. |
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15 | Should homosexuals be ordained? | Rom 1:27 | bartay | 5753 | ||
Should a murderer be ordained? Or a thief? To ordain someone who is clearly adverse to the laws and commands of the Lord, is heritical. A former homosexual, who has repented of the past, and been reborn of the Spirit, is no longer a homosexual, and as such is no longer banned from obtaining a position in God's Church. We all at one time were as bad as a homosexual, separated from God by sin. Our repentance brought the new birth, putting to death our old man of sin, and allowing us a sonship role with God. |
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16 | do we have any free will? | Bible general Archive 1 | bartay | 5750 | ||
If we are sinning, we are the angels of Satan. Scripture tells us that Jesus told the Pharesees that they belonged to their father the Devil. The Pharesees were sinning because they had taken God's laws and commands and twisted them to suit their own ideals. 1John 3:8 says, He who commits sin is of the Devil; for the Devil has sinned from the beginning. The choice to sin does not have its source in the Holy Spirit. If we are taking our own willed decisions to sin then the question of do we have free will is answered. The real question should have been should we have free will. To be saved by grace through faith is determined by our obedience to God's way to receive salvation. The giving of grace, which I believe is the giving of the Spirit to live within us, evidences the love of God for us, and his love for others by our fruits of the Spirit. We cannot bring any of the fruits of the Spirit to bear through our own willed wisdom. These must be implemented by the Spirit who dwells within us, who knows the mind of the Father. Jesus said it all at Gethsemene when he called out to the Father, not my will, but thine be done. |
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17 | Is God responsible for evil? | Bible general Archive 1 | bartay | 5745 | ||
The responsibility for evil, or sin, does not lie with God. The true source for evil happened before the Garden, and the forming of the two who fell. There was a war in Heaven in which Lucifer, and a third of the Angels, rebelled against God's authority. Because there was no evil, or sin, up to this time, there was no law or penelty for the evil created. So if sin was in the world before the law was given, and sin is not imputed where there is no law,(Romans 5:13) then the law God implemented in the Garden must have been put in place because of original sin. How does God deal with sin? First one must repent, obey God's instructions to receive eternal life, and become one with Christ. If the pair in the Garden were of the nature of Lucifer before the law given, then the law given was to bring repentance, through obedience to God's instruction, to not eat of the tree. If they obeyed they could have eternal life by being able to eat of the tree of life. Their failure to do what God instructed, banished them from the Garden. Jesus had this same temptation in the wilderness with Satan. Satan said if you are hungry eat, by making bread out of the stones. God said to Adam do not eat from the tree. Jesus said that man must live by the word of God alone, which Adam didn't as he denied the word of God. Satan again said to Jesus, throw yourself off this high pinnacle and you will not die. The Serpent said to Eve, eat of the tree you will not die. Jesus answered, you shall not tempt the Lord thy God. Adam did tempt the Lord ignoring the consequences for disobeying the word of the Lord, in the day that you eat of it you will die. The third temptation Satan tried on Jesus was to worship him (Satan) and he would give him (Jesus) to reign supreme over all the kingdoms of the earth. The Serpent said to Eve, you will be like God, knowing good from evil. Jesus answered, you will worship the Lord your God, and only he shall you serve. Eve took the worship of self by believing she could be as God knowing good from evil, and then served Adam with the temptation of eating from the tree. |
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18 | Isn't God sovereign? | Bible general Archive 1 | bartay | 5744 | ||
I do not believe that God gave us free will. Free will is the motivating power that drives sin. If God gave to man, namely Adam and Eve and all prodigy after, freewill to choose, surely freewill must be another name for disobedience of God's command and law. There is no mention in scripture that man has been given freewill to do what he likes; in fact just the opposite is the case. God didn't say, you can choose to obey or not, He gave an ultimatum, if you don't obey you will die. There is no choice in that, it is a command, and was the first and only law that God implemented. It is the spiritual law. If one sees disobeying God as freewill, then obviously we have an awful lot of freewill sinners. For not only is freewill another name for disobeying God, but is also another name for sin. If one obeys, this first law God implemented for man, one has no need of any other laws, outside of that initial law. This law in the Garden was the first great law Jesus spoke of; to love God with all your heart, and have no other god's you obey; freewill makes a mockery of obedience, for it is another god which we obey, the god of self which is at enmity with God. For we are all carnal sold under sin. (Romans 7:14) Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Therefore, because the pair in the Garden did not keep God's law, they were of a carnal mind, which is at enmity with God. |
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19 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | bartay | 5741 | ||
The predestination is a calling of God to those whom he has chosen to be called. He says, if you eat of the tree of life, and ignore the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you will live. If you decide to disregard what I am telling you, and decide that you through your own wisdom can live forever, you will die. To believe anything, or anyone, besides God, will result in eternal death. So predestination is not just being called, but believing the path the Lord directs to obtain eternal life, is the only way. To try and use self willed knowledge to obtain eternal life will bring failure. So it is thy will be done. I would rather be a eternal puppet serving the Lord, than a lost for all eternity self willed person. bartay |
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20 | How do you know you have the Holy Ghost? | Acts 19:2 | bartay | 5685 | ||
You say; 1) Neither "a close relationship with Him (God)" nor our obedience can save us. We are saved by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone (Rom 3:28; Eph 2:8-9; John 5:24). (Answer) Scripture tells us that Abraham was declared righteous because he believed, and obeyed God. Abraham certainly had a close relationship with God, because God spoke to him, and Abraham obeyed him. (Romans 4:9) Romans 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith. God chose us, because he loved us. If this is not a close relationship that God desires from those he chooses, then I do not know what would be? Before we knew God or Jesus, God had already chosen those who would receive the grace to become sons of God. 1 John 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. John 17:6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Grace is the working of the Holy Spirit in ones life You say; 2) Salvation is conditioned solely on faith in Jesus Christ. Nearly 200 times faith, or belief, is stated as THE SINGLE CONDITION in the NT (John 1:12; Acts 16:31). (Answer) The faith needed, to believe in grace to save, was also given by God to those whom he chose to become sons. It is not our measure of faith that brings grace, for it to be so it would cause us to be able to boast in our own achievement of attaining grace through our own self actions. Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. So to believe that my self willed faith in Jesus Christ will save me is not enough. If God has not given the measure of faith to believe, then your faith is not acceptable You say; 3) A close relationship with God and obedience are the RESULT, not the CAUSE of salvation. (Answer) Are you then saying that through some endeavour of our own we can have a close relationship with God which results in salvation. There is nothing we can do to bring about a result of being saved. Shall we say then that the rich young man, who was obedient to the keeping of all the commandments, and so believed he had a close relationship with God, resulted in him being saved? No it didn’t, because the cause for salvation is following the sacrifice for salvation, Jesus Christ. Then there was the ones who believed they were prophesying, casting out demons, and doing many wonderful works, in Jesus name. The result of all their works was not salvation, but condemnation. However, according to your premise, that a close relationship and obedience should have resulted in these people attaining salvation, did not happen. To look for the result rather than the cause, is putting the cart before the horse. Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. The cause for being saved has already been implemented by God, and so no result of man’s endeavour can bring it to fruition. The result of being saved, is righteousness being seen, by the fruits of the Spirit shining forth from the individual. You say; 4) The phrase "living in sin" occurs nowhere in either the KJV, ASV, RSV, NASB, or NKJV. (Answer) Living in sin was not my expression. I was just making the point that if one has been saved, it is saved from sin by Jesus Christ. (Matthew 1:21) To carry on declaring I am a sinner, but I’m saved, is a contradictory statement. If I am saved, what am I saved from if I do not believe my old life of sin has disappeared. Bartay |
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