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621 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | Wild Olive Shoot | 187871 | ||
Mark, Although I don't necessarily want to engage in a discussion where you and I don't see eye to eye, only because I respect your opinion and truly take in all you post as well with Tim, I think Psalm25 is correct if the issue is an eternal issue. Although, I don't believe Psalm25 wanted to take the discussion there. In light of what you and Tim have posted I see the point as far as using the text incorrectly to support a position and I understand the responsibility to correct a wrong understanding. However I don't feel that is the case here. If God seals someone today, is that sealing really eternal? Wouldn’t it rather be continuous from that point? Eternal describes all ages, not just from the present and forward, but all ages. According to 2 Timothy 1:9, who saved us and when? 2Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, “which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began; it is a gift, and a free gift, not at all depending upon any conditions in the creature, and entirely proceeding from the sovereign will of God; and it was a gift from eternity; there was not only a purpose of grace in God's heart, and a promise of it so early, but there was a real donation of it in eternity: and though those to whom it was given did not then personally exist, yet Christ did, and he existed as a covenant head and representative of his people; and they were in him, as members of him, as represented by him, being united to him; and this grace was given to him for them, and to them in him; in whom they were chosen, and in whom they were blessed with all spiritual blessings. The Ethiopic version reads, "in Christ Jesus, who before the world was"; but without any foundation.” – John Gill Romans 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Ephesians 1:4, 5: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, John 17:2,3: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. What is eternal life if it is not eternal? Eternal as used in John 17:2: perpetual (also used of past time, or past and future as well): - eternal, for ever, everlasting, world (began). Titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began; God promised eternal life before the world began. Do you not think God made the promise actual at that point? He chose us in him before the foundation of the world. Who was the promise for if it wasn’t for those he chose before the foundation of the world? Stand in His grace, WOS |
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622 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | Wild Olive Shoot | 187872 | ||
Tim, I better understand shift of the subject and do agree we need to be clear in supporting what we post. Please see post 187871. I value your input as well and would like your thoughts. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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623 | Can you lose your salvation? | Eph 1:13 | Wild Olive Shoot | 187879 | ||
Hey Mark, I agree. I don’t believe we could come to a mutual understanding on the subject and our debate would benefit nobody. But, just so you know where I stand, I hope it is in God’s grace, and that grace is freely dispensed according to His good pleasure. Ephesians 1:5,6: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, 6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. Ephesians 1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. 2Thessalonians 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: Eph 4:3–7: 3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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624 | How did Peter recognize who Jesus was? | Eph 1:17 | Wild Olive Shoot | 218398 | ||
Dear Humility, This is a question that I myself have pondered and honestly struggled with for quite some time. I found Matthew Henry's commentary in Matthew 16 to be helpful in understanding. I'll paste it below and pray it helps you as it did me. The very thing that had me is the fact that saving faith, saving grace is a gift from God (Ephesians 2:8). We know Christ because He has been revealed to us, not because we searched, but because it was willed. As it is now, I would tend to believe it was back then and always. Matthew 16:1- 4: 1 And the Pharisees and Sadducees came, and to test him they asked him to show them a sign from heaven. 2 He answered them, "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.' 3 And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times. 4 An evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah." So he left them and departed. "The demand was of a sign from heaven; this they desired him to show them; pretending they were very willing to be satisfied and convinced, when really they were far from being so, but sought excuses from an obstinate infidelity. That which they pretended to desire was, Some other sign than what they had yet had. They had great plenty of signs; every miracle Christ wrought was a sign, for no man could do what he did unless God were with him. But this will not serve, they must have a sign of their own choosing; they despised those signs which relieved the necessity of the sick and sorrowful, and insisted upon some sign which gratify the curiosity of the proud. It is fit that the proofs of divine revelation should be chosen by the wisdom of God, not by the follies and fancies of men. The evidence that is given is sufficient to satisfy an unprejudiced understanding, but was not intended to please a vain humour. Ant it is an instance of the deceitfulness of the heart, to think that we should be wrought upon by the means and advantages which we have not, while we slight those which we have. If we hear not Moses and the prophets, neither would we be wrought upon though one rose from the dead." - Matthew Henry Matthew 16:13 - 17: 13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say that the Son of Man is?" 14 And they said, "Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." 15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter replied, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 17 And Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. "1. The Christian religion is a revealed religion, has its rise in heaven; it is a religion from above, given by inspiration of God, not the learning of philosophers, nor the politics of statesmen. 2. Saving faith is the gift of God, and, wherever it is, is wrought by him, as the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for his sake, and upon the score of his mediation, Phi_1:29. Therefore thou art blessed, because my Father has revealed it to thee. Note, The revealing of Christ to us and in us is a distinguishing token of God's good will, and a firm foundation of true happiness; and blessed are they that are thus highly favoured." - Matthew Henry Ephesians 1:16 - 23: 16 I do not cease to give thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers, 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, 18 having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, 19 and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might 20 that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. 22 And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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625 | what does it mean to be alive in Christ? | Eph 2:5 | Wild Olive Shoot | 171450 | ||
Ephesians 2:5, 6: 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: “He hath quickened us together with Christ. Our spiritual life results from our union with Christ; it is in him that we live: Because I live, you shall live also. 2. We who were buried are raised up, Eph_2:6. What remains yet to be done is here spoken of as though it were already past, though indeed we are raised up in virtue of our union with him whom God hath raised from the dead. When he raised Christ from the dead, he did in effect raise up all believers together with him, he being their common head; and when he placed him at his right hand in heavenly places, he advanced and glorified them in and with him, their raised and exalted head and forerunner.” – Matthew Henry’s Commentary on the Whole Bible WOS |
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626 | ehesians2vs8 | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157098 | ||
Does God have Faith? “Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland, and other Word-Faith teachers have a brand new revelation, “God operates by faith.” And we, too, ought to exercise the same kind of faith that God exercised when He created the world. Well is this new revelation really biblical? There are only two prooftexts from the Bible which are used to prove that God exercises faith, and they don’t support this doctrine at all. The first is Mark 11:22, this tell us: “Have faith in God.” Well, grammatically this could be translated, “Have faith of God,” or, “Have God’s faith.” And therefore the Word-Faith teachers commonly say that we are to have “the God kind of faith.” However, this is clearly a mistake. You see, in Greek the grammatical form here means not “faith that God has” but “faith, that has God as its object.” In context Jesus is exhorting His disciples to have faith when they pray — in other words, when they ask God for things, they are to have faith in Him [Mark 11:23-24]. It’s always object oriented. The second prooftext, Hebrews 11:3, says that “by faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the Word of God.” The Word-Faith teachers here twist this to read that God by His faith created the world. In other words, God had to exercise faith in order to create the world. Again, this interpretation clearly is ruled out by the context. The whole chapter is talking about the faith exercised in God by human beings: “By faith Abel... By faith Enoch... By faith Noah... By faith Abraham... By faith Sarah...” [11:4,5,7,8,11], and so forth. The whole idea that God has faith is completely foreign to the Bible. Biblical faith is: human beings trusting in a God they cannot see, to do things that He has promised. God sees all and knows all from all eternity. So, God doesn’t need to have faith. And since God doesn’t need to have faith, the idea that we have to imitate God’s “faith” is clearly unbiblical. Remember, faith is always object oriented: Faith in God not faith of God. And if we mix that up, we have a faulty understanding of what true biblical faith really is. On the question of God having faith, that’s the CRI Perspective. I’m Hank Hanegraaff.” http://www.equip.org/free/CP1101.htm Why would God need faith if He knows all? WOS |
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627 | ehesians2vs8 | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157108 | ||
C.S.M., I would have to disagree with your statement: “I say Jesus is the source, the developer, and the finisher of mankinds faith. He doesn't just have faith, he is faith, the source of all faith from God the Father.” Jesus Christ cannot be faith. Paul points out that faith is temporal. Christ is eternal. How can one be the other? Faith is clearly a spiritual gift as pointed out in 1 Corinthians 12:9. 1 Corinthians 12 7Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8To one there is given through the Spirit the message of wisdom, to another the message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he gives them to each one, just as he determines. Sp on your logic, Christ is merely a spiritual gift? The Spiritual gifts will not last forever, Christ will. Faith will not last forever, Christ will. By the way, can you please let me know exactly where it was I twisted the words of God? If you can do that I’ll retract the statement. Clearly C.S.M., you fail to understand what faith is. Clearly, for some reason, you have faith and Christ mixed together as if they are the same. I worship Christ. Do you worship faith? Sorry brother but you seem very confused to me. WOS |
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628 | ehesians2vs8 | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157109 | ||
C.S.M., When did faith and grace become part of the Godhead? I must have missed that when God revealed it to us in His Word. Can you point that out to me please? I worship in faith. I’m saved because of God’s grace. Faith and grace are not persons. The Father and the Son are. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? WOS |
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629 | ehesians2vs8 | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157120 | ||
My definition of faith is God's definition, straight from His word as revealed in Hebrews 11:1 brother. I don't add to it, I don't take away from it. WOS |
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630 | ehesians2vs8 | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157121 | ||
Grace is God’s forgiving mercy, His kindness, His freely bestowing upon me His gift of salvation. God is not grace. Yes He is the source, but he is not grace. I believe I have thoroughly defined faith as God has. Christ is not faith. Our faith is in Christ. Again, grace and faith are not persons. To refer to God as grace and Christ as faith is to add to God’s word. Something that God himself had warned us not to do. By focusing on attributes of the Father and the Son, and what they provide us, and equating them to the gifts they provide is to diminish their office. They, yes they, are even greater than the gifts they bestow upon us, therefore, they cannot be equated to those gifts. WOS |
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631 | ehesians2vs8 | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157122 | ||
“Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity” (1Cor 13:8-13). In 1Co 13:13 we read, “And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.” Concerning “charity” Paul had already said, “Charity never faileth” (1Co 13:8). The word “abideth” means to “remain” or “continue.” When Paul said that prophecies would “fail” and special knowledge by revelation would “vanish away,” he used a Greek word that meant to be “abolished” or “cease.” He did not mean that the prophecies would fail to come to pass or be true, but that the gift of prophecy would cease in the church. The fact that charity (love of God) is the only gift that will never fail, tells us that there will be a time in which all of the gifts are in existence. There will be another time when the three; faith, hope and charity are in existence. Then finally when charity by itself will be in existence. This is proven by the definitions that the Bible gives concerning both of these gifts. Concerning faith, we read in the book of Hebrews, “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” (Heb 11:1). When Jesus comes, I will see him for myself and will no longer need to see Him through the eyes of faith. I realize that it may be argued that the disciples had faith when they were with Christ at His first coming; but at that time he came as a humble servant and many, especially the religious leaders of Israel, rejected Him as the Messiah. When He comes in glory there will be no question as to who He is. When God’s people are glorified with Him the need for faith will have come to an end. Concerning hope we read, “For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it” (Rom 8:24-25). The second coming of Jesus is that blessed hope. When Christ comes for me my hope will be realized and brought to fruition. At that time, when I see Him and I am with Him, I will only need the love of God for all eternity. These verses tell us that the time of faith, hope and charity in the church age must be before the Lord returns for His people. This means that tongues, prophecy and special knowledge will be done away with before the return of Christ. Now, when is that time? Paul is telling us in his epistle to the Corinthians when that point in time will be. It is when “that which is perfect is come” (1Co 13:10). No wonder Paul said, “Now abideth, faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.” I know many interpret “that which is perfect” to be the coming of Jesus Christ and His millennial kingdom; but as we have just pointed out, the three gifts of faith, hope and charity must exist by themselves before His coming. And not only that, but also the word “that” suggests a thing and not a person. Why don’t we let the Bible itself tell us what is the meaning of “that which is perfect.” According to the lexicon, the word perfect in the King James Version comes from a Greek word meaning: “brought to its end, finished; wanting nothing necessary to completeness; full grown, adult, of full age, mature.” Now ask yourself, what was completed in this age before the Lord’s return? Well, again, why don’t we let the Bible tell us. In 1 Corinthians 13:11 we read, “When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.” This verse is immediately after the verse that mentions, “that which is perfect” which shows us that Paul means exactly what the lexicon says concerning the word “perfect.” And what were the childish things that Paul had in mind that would be put away when that which is perfect or complete had come? Well, it should be obvious to any reader that he was speaking of the early gifts of tongues, prophecy and special revelation knowledge given to the members of the infant church during the apostolic age. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Grove/3718/tongues.html WOS |
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632 | ehesians2vs8 | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157131 | ||
C.S.M., I refuse to debate this any further with you. I have provided answers, clearly supported by God's word, unadulterated. You have not brother. You continue to read into God's word something that is neither there nor supported. As far as I am concerned, this conversation is over. I've done all I can to correct your equating the Godhead with their gifts and diminishing their offices. I will not continue to explain again and again from where my definitions are derived when I have clearly shown they are supported by God’s own word. Your attempt to run me in circles has surely failed, for I am clear on what God’s word instructs and what His Holy Spirit has taught. As a matter of fact, I discontinued even reading your last post because I'm sure, like the others in this thread, it uses God's word out of context and will prove to be unfruitful. Peace to you brother. WOS |
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633 | ehesians2vs8 | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157140 | ||
C.S.M., Forgive me, for my curiosity got the better of me and I did finish reading your post. Before I depart from this discussion, I feel I must address some of your unfair claims against me. I really don’t know what you are debating. My disagreement as stated in my post was this: From post # 157108 You said: “I say Jesus is the source, the developer, and the finisher of mankinds faith. He doesn't just have faith, he is faith, the source of all faith from God the Father.” I said: “Jesus Christ cannot be faith. Paul points out that faith is temporal. Christ is eternal. How can one be the other? Faith is clearly a spiritual gift as pointed out in 1 Corinthians 12:9.” You also stated that God is grace and Jesus is faith in another post that was not part of this thread, post #157084: you said: “God is grace, Jesus is Faith which produces peace.” Then in another post you stated that God’s word is His faith, as is God requires faith, post #157074 you said: “Since the just must live by faith, and Jesus said you live by every word of God. God's word is God's faith.” I debate all of these as being unsupported by God’s own word. Before I venture into answering you questions yet again, let’s look at what I disagree with. You claim Jesus is faith, God is grace and God’s word is God’s faith. Why would God need faith. God knows all. God’s own definition of faith is Hebrews 11:1Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. So tell me what does God hope for? What is it that God cannot see? Why do you think God needs faith? Yes He is the source of our faith but he needs not faith. Like you have stated, God can call into existence anything He desires out of nothing. So why do you find it hard to believe that God can give us faith without Himself having it? Secondly, you claim Jesus is faith but have failed to provide the Scripture that supports that. Faith is a gift from God. As pointed out, gifts, with the exception of love, will not endure forever. We know Christ will endure forever. So how can Christ be faith? Again, sine faith is a gift, its source is God, but faith is established in Christ, Christ is not faith. God is grace? Grace is God’s free and unmerited favor toward sinful humanity. My definition is a paraphrase of this but is essentially the same. This definition can be found in any Bible Dictionary or concordance, yet you struggle with it as being factual, dismissing it as something I heard someone say. Yes, I heard God say it in His word. So again, point me to the Scripture that identifies God as being grace. God surely does give us His grace, but He is not grace. Now to address specifically your questions and statement in this post: You ask: “why do you reject God's clearly stated definition of grace in Eph 1:6 as his acceptance of believers in the beloved? You do agree he is talking about Christ Jesus, the beloved, don't you?” I believe my definition is accurate to that Scripture and yes He has given us grace because of His Son Jesus. I don’t deny that, but that does not define grace. You are surely mistaken if you think it does. It explains why God has given us His grace. Continued in next post… |
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634 | ehesians2vs8 | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157141 | ||
You state: “I don't find your definition in scripture as you state it. Do you have scripture to come to that conclusion or is that just something you have heard someone else say?” I believe I have already addressed that. You state: “Heb 11:1 What is the substance? What is the evidence? Define the who, what, when, where, how and why of faith by God's written word.” What evidence my friend? That’s what faith is. We can’t see the evidence. You miss the whole concept of “1Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.” I don’t have to further define it. I accept God’s definition of faith. Why do you not? You ask: Who is Love? Who is light? Check it out in I John 4:8, I John 1:5 . Would you now say love is just an attribute, quality or an element? Would you now say light is just an attribute, quality or an element? Did the Apostle John just make this up?” You are getting off track. Let’s stick to faith and grace and equating them to the Godhead for right now. You confuse yourself attempting to bring a bunch of other elements into the conversation that truly need to be addressed elsewhere. You ask: Is this God's word ? Who and what are you going to believe. What you have known before by your religious training, or what the written word of God says?” Of course I believe God’s word, but I only accept as He dictated, not adulterated and used out of context. You state: “No one can diminish God or his office, that's impossible. Nothing any human being can say or do will ever change God.” I agree, but men attempt to do it everyday. You do it with what you have posted in this thread when you haphazardly throw God’s word into a ball of confusion and attempt to state what isn’t there to begin with. You stated: “Nothing has been added to God's word, it still reads the same way it always has. Any explanations of understanding is in paranthesis, not adding to or deleting from God's word including your own understandings. Were they added to God's word?” I added nothing to God’s word. You on the other hand have. Let me recap for you: “He doesn't just have faith, he is faith” “God is grace, Jesus is Faith which produces peace” “God's word is God's faith” Did you not state these things? Have you shown me in God’s word where he stated these things? You ask: “What is the strong meat spoken of in Heb 5:13-14? Is that just an attribute of something or a metaphore, or a proverb, something laid down beside something else to bring fuller understanding to a person?” Brother, one of the things this passage is enlightening us with is our ability to discern between the correct and incorrect use of Scripture. I’m sorry, but you are using it incorrectly. You stated: “Since wisdom (i.e. the wise) were mentioned, this gift has not passed away.” I really don’t understand the relevance of this. I never stated the gifts have ceased, only that they will and Paul attested to that. You claim: “I was not equating the gifts of the Spirit, to God the Father, nor was I focusing on the attributes of the Father and the Son. They provide everything..if I understand correctly...” Do I need to recap again? You quoted: “Acts 17:31 Because he has appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by THAT MAN whom he has ordained; whereof he has given assurance unto all men, in that he has raised him from the dead...” And then stated: “Sounds like Jesus is that (man) which is perfect that is to come. I Cor 13:10” I don’t disagree. But as the passage clearly points out, there will be a time before our Lord returns where only Faith, Hope and Love will exist. The text is clear. God’s word is clear. You state: “Jesus is the gift sent of God for mankinds benefit in every area of life. John 3:16” And the point of that reference in this discussion is what? That has never been questioned. You claimed also in post #157105 that I twisted the word of God when you stated: “How can you twist the scripture to say it is a person other than God who said that?” You have yet to point out exactly what it was I twisted. If I did, the proper thing to do is to retract and offer an apology. I hope you will extend that opportunity to me. You fail to move me brother with what you have claimed. As I claimed before, now I do reinforce, I’ll end this unfruitful debate. In peace and may God truly reveal His word to you. WOS |
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635 | Law and Gospel | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 164696 | ||
“Love is his inclination to do us good considered simply as creatures; mercy respects us as apostate and as miserable creatures. Observe, God's eternal love or good-will towards his creatures is the fountain whence all his mercies vouch-safed to us proceed; and that love of God is great love, and that mercy of his is rich mercy, inexpressibly great and inexhaustibly rich. And then by grace you are saved (Eph_2:5), and by grace are you saved through faith - it is the gift of God, Eph_2:8. Note, Every converted sinner is a saved sinner. Such are delivered from sin and wrath; they are brought into a state of salvation, and have a right given them by grace to eternal happiness. The grace that saves them is the free undeserved goodness and favour of God; and he saves them, not by the works of the law, but through faith in Christ Jesus, by means of which they come to partake of the great blessings of the gospel; and both that faith and that salvation on which it has so great an influence are the gift of God.”… …”Grace in the soul is a new life in the soul. As death locks up the senses, seals up all the powers and faculties, so does a state of sin, as to any thing that is good. Grace unlocks and opens all, and enlarges the soul. Observe, A regenerate sinner becomes a living soul: he lives a life of sanctification, being born of God; and he lives in the sense of the law, being delivered from the guilt of sin by pardoning and justifying grace. He hath quickened us together with Christ. Our spiritual life results from our union with Christ; it is in him that we live: Because I live, you shall live also.” - Matthew Henry |
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636 | Law and Gospel | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 164698 | ||
One more? "Salvation must be by grace. If man be lost by sin, how can he be saved except through the grace of God? If he has sinned, he is condemned; and how can he, of himself, reverse that condemnation? Suppose that he should keep the law all the rest of his life, he will then only have done what he was always bound to have done, and he will still be an unprofitable servant. What is to become of the past? How can old sins be blotted out? How can the old ruin be retrieved? According to Scripture, and according to common sense, salvation can only be through the free favour of God. Salvation in the present tense must be by the free favour of God. Persons may contend for salvation by works, but you will not hear anyone support his own argument by saying, "I am myself saved by what I have done." That would be a superfluity of naughtiness to which few men would go. Pride could hardly compass itself about with such extravagant boasting. No, if we are saved, it must be by the free favour of God. No one professes to be an example of the opposite view." - C. H. Spurgeon |
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637 | Law and Gospel | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 164702 | ||
Merry Christmas lionheart. I hope you had a blessed day. Here is but one more quote that I think is beautiful. “Jesus Christ takes many to his bosom, whose company we should have shunned, when they were in their evil state. Sovereign mercy can dash into sinful places, and take captives! Free grace can go into the gutter, and bring up a jewel! Divine love can rake a dunghill, and find a diamond! There is no spot where God's grace cannot and will not go!” - Spurgeon WOS |
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638 | Eph 2:5-9 | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 171452 | ||
Ephesians 2:8,9: 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Salvation by grace through faith is a gift of God. No “works” we perform can in effect grant us our salvation. It is by God’s grace we are saved. WOS |
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639 | where in bible doesit say baptism saves | Eph 2:8 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201953 | ||
Dear belovedofgod, It doesn’t as far as I know, but baptism is still a command of our Lord that we are expected to adhere to. Ephesians 2:8-10: 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. 1John 2:1-6: 1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. 3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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640 | Who or what is gods true church | Eph 2:22 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201510 | ||
Dear fireandice, Easton’s Bible Dictionay defines it in part as such: “The church invisible “consists of the whole number of the elect that have been, are, or shall be gathered into one under Christ, the head thereof.” This is a pure society, the church in which Christ dwells. It is the body of Christ. it is called “invisible” because the greater part of those who constitute it are already in heaven or are yet unborn, and also because its members still on earth cannot certainly be distinguished. The qualifications of membership in it are internal and are hidden. It is unseen except by Him who “searches the heart.” “The Lord knoweth them that are his” (2Ti_2:19). The church to which the attributes, prerogatives, and promises appertaining to Christ's kingdom belong, is a spiritual body consisting of all true believers, i.e., the church invisible.” – Easton’s Bible Dictionary The true church is simply the visible who are those around the world who profess the true religion, and the invisible which is all of God’s elect that are under Christ, the Head. 2Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. Ephesians 2:19-22: 19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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