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1 | if you are saved are you always saved? | Bible general Archive 3 | BradK | 162864 | ||
Hi winningside, And so goes the eternal question... I side with the Perseverance of the saints:-) How did you arrive at the conclusion that you, "do not know how people can believe that after doing an in depth study on the subject?" For what it's worth, I wouldn't call the matter of eternal security simply "an opinion". There are (orthodox) views on both sides of the issue that can be (more or less) supported by scripture. I don't honestly think there are hundreds of different opinions- shall we say, 2?! C.H. Spurgeon in commenting on the doctrine of final perseverance, said this about 2 Timothy 1:9: "The apostle in stating his doctrine in the following words, “Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,” declares God to be the author of salvation, “Who hath saved us and called us.” The whole tenor of the verse is towards a strong affirmation of Jonah’s doctrine, “that salvation is of the Lord.” It would require very great twisting, involving more than ingenuity, it would need dishonesty, to make out salvation by man out of this text; but to find salvation altogether of God in it is to perceive the truth which lies upon the very surface. No need for profound inquiry, the wayfaring man though a fool shall not err therein; for the text says as plainly as words can say, “God hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling.” The apostle, then, in order to bring forth the truth that salvation is of grace declares that it is of God, that it springs directly and entirely from him and from him only. Is not this according to the teaching of the Holy Spirit in other places, where he affirms over and over again that the alpha and omega of our salvation must be found not in ourselves but in our God?" Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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2 | if you are saved are you always saved? | Bible general Archive 3 | winningside | 162885 | ||
There are several list in the bible of people who are not going to heaven. The bible also talks about people who backslide. Therefore, not once saved always saved. It sounds like to me you already have it already figured out for yourself just as I have. If you know the answer, you don't have to ask the question right? Search the scriptures daily and in them you will find the truth. Thats why there are different views on the bible, people see what they want to see. But God only meant it one way. I can only sugguest to print out all verses pertaining to this subject and read them over and over. I wanted to have an answer for this question, so I have 20 pages typed out and if I read all of them together, as a whole. There is no once saved, always saved. I ask you to do the same. If I am wrong then I tried to live a little better, if you believe in saved once always saved then that's a little bigger problem if you are wrong. You and God and the Bible - find the answer for yourself. |
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3 | if you are saved are you always saved? | Bible general Archive 3 | BradK | 162886 | ||
Dear winningside, I was not trying to strike a cord of contention with my reply:-) I was merely pointing out that there are true believers on both sides of this debate. And, there are! With all due respect, if "there is no once saved always saved", then is there a "twice lost, always lost"? Where in scripture do believers get saved again? It sounds to me like you're exhibiting a touch of spiritual pride to say I have the bigger problem? What if I said I had 21 pages typed out and I read them all together as a whole? Does this bring us closer together? No, it doesn't. God does not say, "better safe than sorry". I choose to believe God. Eternal life is not temporal and I believe that God is able to "keep you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy," Blessings to you and thanks for your thoughts on the matter:-) BradK |
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4 | if you are saved are you always saved? | Bible general Archive 3 | Wild Olive Shoot | 162891 | ||
BradK, To your: "I choose to believe God. Eternal life is not temporal and I believe that God is able to "keep you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy," Amen and amen. WOS |
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