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1 | Was "James" used prior to KJV ? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 70787 | ||
EdB: The Bishops Bible, upon which the KJV was very dependant upon, used the word James. Many are they who believe the KJV was the very first and best English Bible ever put into English. However for more than 50 years after the KJV came out the Bishops Bible was the Bible most used. The KJV of 1611 did NOT use the TEXTUS RECEPTUS as some are so solidly assured it was. The TEXTUS RECEPTUS was not even published until 1633. The KJV used teh Greek text prepared by Erasmus, and dedicated to Pope Leo X. The oldest Manuscript at that time was from the tenth century! Now the NASB, NIV, and other translations have used manuscripts going back to the third century and the Dead Sea Scrolls. Erasmus' Greek New Testament has numerious problems that match no other Greek texts. So even as good as the KJV is, which lasted over three hundred years it is far from being the best the best we have today. This is more than you wanted, but now you have a bunch to think about. Have a wonderful New year! justme |
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2 | Was "James" used prior to KJV ? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 70791 | ||
Justme Okay then we have two Bibles that used James. Bishop's Bible and Geneva Bible which I’m almost certain used the James. I think it was also used in the Great Bible and Matthew's Bible both english bibles that preceded KJV. Your also right about the KJV. Most don’t know this but the Geneva bible is the Bible the Pilgrims carried on the Mayflower and may have been the first English Bible in America. Thanks for you information!!! EdB |
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3 | Was "James" used prior to KJV ? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 70847 | ||
EdB :-) Your are correct about the Pilgrims, and one can reason they came before the year 1611. However, the Bishop's Bible came out in 1558, and remained the Bible of choice fore more than fifty years after the 1611 KJV came out. Lockman had a little phamplet called "TEXTUS RECEPTUS" IT WAS PUBLISHED IN 1975. Which I was told they have a copy, that they make copies for people who want one. I called for a friend and he never got it sent to him, so I copied mine and sent it to him. I would say this is one source worth a lot to me. I have used it many times and I have found if a person is so positive that this phamplet could not possabliy be right there is no way to prove the truth to a closed mind. I did see a Geneva Bible for sale on www.greatsite.com I think it cost more than I would make in a lifetime. Besides I have my hands full of todays English Bibles, and I find it hard to get enough reading done as it is. I am glad you showed some interest in the topic. I find the translation of the English Bible very interesting. justme |
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4 | Was "James" used prior to KJV ? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 70852 | ||
Justme I understand what your saying about the Textus Receptus it was completed after the KJV rather than the other way around. Instead of the KJV being based on it, the TR had the potential of being based on the KJV. Some claim this is what happened and the TR was built from the KJV, however there are others that say no. I love to study the translation process of the Bible. I'm also fascinated by those that would have us believe Jesus spoke only King James English. EdB |
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5 | Was "James" used prior to KJV ? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 70860 | ||
EdB :-( Now are you tring to tell me that Paul didn't speak Elizabethian English as well? Now you have crossed over the Big no, no, line! If KJV was good enough for Paul then it is good enough for me!!!! I think in reality in the midwest, here in central Missoui, the KJV out sell all other translations, this is the Bible Belt and we have a great number of Almish and Menonite. Some drive cars but most have horse drawn buggies. This can be a real test of their faith venturing out on the highway. As a drive I am always or the alert for the orange triangles. Everyear there collisions and serious injury, and the horse seldom lives. These simple living folks have become friends and we have been challenged to make our life less hectic and simpler. We buy a lot of our grocerys and other better hosehold itend, and all our hay this way. We have become friends with a man and wife who have 60 grandchildren! Their lifestyle is amazing. When a wedding comes it takes all day! there are generally 250 people who eat, sing, pray and celebrate. This goes on until 11 PM. and the Brides family pays for everything! Two meals for 250 people, wow! I have never been with such kinder more sincere, loving people. They accept outsiders very cautiously, and it takes time to build friendships. This has been well worth our effort and love to them. Their children do not go to school beyond the 8th grade. They earn their living with their hands, respect the soil, and do not accept any government Social Security, food stamps or welfare. They pay their taxes and keep to thenselves. Their lives are hard, and they depend on hard work and the Lord. Now I wonder how our government could improve on that? We respect their right to live unto the Lord as they see best. We are viewed as friends, but I am sure they would generally say we are too worldly. Our friends have accepted our differences as we have theirs. So I say we are blessed to live where we do. Justme |
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6 | Was "James" used prior to KJV ? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 70863 | ||
Justme I'm from Mennonite stock. I was born and raised in Pennsylvania. Not far from a place called the big valley where Amish had beautiful farms on either side of the road for miles and miles. Many of their dairy barns were cleaner than a few houses I see these days. We would go for rides on Sunday afternoon and we would see 50 or more of these buggies traveling the roads. My mouth still waters for Amish smoked ham and apple dumplings. In the summer I would visit my Mennonite relatives and in turn their Amish friends and relatives. I remember some really good eating!!! Later lived in Cleveland Ohio there is place called Mesopotamia in north eastern Ohio which is another Amish area. They would send their meat and produce into Cleveland and it sold for a premium. I remember ordering and picking up an Amish hams every Christmas. Now that I’m in Florida there is another Amish enclave down toward Sarasota where I go when I get hungry for some good old Amish cooking. We have a Christian campground near here that is ran by the Mennonite’s. I love it when retreats are scheduled in there I know we will be treated the best. EdB |
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7 | Was "James" used prior to KJV ? | Bible general Archive 1 | justme | 70870 | ||
EdB (:-) Then you know why we love it here so much. I was raised is fast pace California. My wife and me and our family lived in Phoenix gor about 8 years before moving to Missouri. So we love the four seasons, the lakes, just about everything in Missouri. I often say if our lakes were in California there would not be a lake front to buy in the state. Cost of living is low, and it's like stepping back in time fourty years. Most of the Amish and Mennonite meat comes from PA. And as Mr. Cook says "ooh it's soo good." So is our Lord who provides for us with such mercy and grace. justme |
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8 | Was "James" used prior to KJV ? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 70893 | ||
Justme I envy you. I'm stuck in Florida. Grandmother and grandchildren will not be parted. I love the 4 seasons and I so miss snow here in Florida. You can take the boy out of the north but you can't take the north out of the boy. though after all these years 24 I would probably freeze up north now. EdB |
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