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1 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Searcher56 | 138984 | ||
Scripture ... 1 Cor 13:10, 2 Pet 1:16-21, 2 Tim 3:16, 1 Jhn 1:1-3 ... Angel, When I said ... "when Revelation was written, then prophecy and knowledge complete" ... it was one of two choices for about prefect (1 Cor 13:10). You said ... "Yet, we know that though the book of Revelation is complete as far as the offering of written revelations, we still need the Holy Spirit to do the actual interpretation and further refinement of the revealed matter... SO THE BIBLE ITSELF IS NOT COMPLETE! It is not lacking further revelations (new information/prophecies)... so in that sence it is perfected; yet, the written revelations cannot be resolved by man except through the Divine assistance of the Holy Spirit. (2 Peter 1:20-21) emphasis mine.. Why do you say, “the Bible in itself is not complete”? What do we need to add to the Bible? Is what we add inspired or just interpreted? When looking at this passage, I would start in verse 16, where we read we (Paul and others) did not follow cleverly devised tales. Then in verse 19 they had the prophetic word made more sure … they took the OT prophetic word and saw it proven (vv 16b-18) and now were telling what saw and heard (1 John 1:1-3). So I see verses 20-21 as saying the OT prophecy of Scripture is inspired. The NT is inspired, too (2 Tim 3:16). Searcher |
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2 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | JCrichton | 139058 | ||
Hi, Searcher! Have you read the Bible in its entirety? Do you think you know God's Design from reading it? During which stage of Creation were the angels created? When precisely did Lucifer turn 1/3 of the angels against God? When are we to meet Jesus? When are we to change from the carnal body into the spiritual?... the Bible contains general information about all of these topics, yet we are not given the precise information to conclusively state "it happened exactly..." Salvation is granted to us as a Gift; Jesus purchased us at a price... yet how and who is purchased is not revealed to the complete knowledge of God--we are given the necessary working-information so that we might be able to understand God's Gift as it pertains to part of His Design: our repentance, obedience and abiding in God... yet for us to contend that we know God's depths (who He is and how He does everything) would only be to deceive ourselves, for what man knows the mind of God that he should instruct Him! (1 Corinthian 2:16) When we realize that all of our collective knowledge (humanity's) only begins to scratch God's surface (and that because He allows us that much); we may begin to humble ourselves and begin our spiritual growth! "What do we need to add to the Bible?" It is the Holy Spirit that completes all revelation! If we simply read the text of the Bible and jump into one of hundreds/thousands of interpretations we are not searching and preaching the Truth, we are seeking adulation from humanity! Christ tells us that He is the Resurrection and Life and that those who come to Him will Live; yet to come to Him we must be born of the Holy Spirit! The text of the Bible does not complete Salvation--in this the Bible is not complete! It is the Holy Spirit who completes, in us, Jesus' Sacrifice... for anyone to claim that Salvation is a matter of text and not of the Holy Spirit, it would be the same as claiming to be saved by our own powers: "Just grab a formula or two and your in!" There are people offering formulas for Salvation--this is done all over town, everywhere... they offer these formulas (made by human minds and hands) as guarantors of Eternal Salvation... Never mind that Jesus calls us to repentence, baptism and fellowship! One of these formulas demands that for all to be saved they must know Jesus--that outside of this formula there is no salvation! This of course diminishes God's Power and Mercy as infants and the mentally handicapped may die well before being able to "know" Jesus--there's not a single once of mercy that can be found in this formula, yet many claim that it is Scripturally sound! The purport that only those who can know Jesus and learn to preach, perform miracles, speak in tongues... are to be saved! Yet, Jesus Himself tells us that not all who call Him Lord will enter into Heaven but those who do the Will of His Father--Jesus even offers an admonishion that cripples that brand of salvation (Matthew 7:21-27; Luke 6:46)... The Bible, as excellent as it is, does not replace God nor the fullness of God! When we exact salvation on our own "enlightened" understanding of Scripture and we remove the Holy Spirit from the actual rebirth (corporeal into spiritual) we are shortchanging God's Design! We are limiting by strictness of the text what the Holy Spirit does: Salvation is not a matter of codes and formulas, Salvation is a matter of God's Holy Spirit cleansing and resurrecting us into the Body (not the temporal body) of Christ! By following the letter of the text the masters of the law failed to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, we do not better when we seek to know and limit God in our finite wisdom! The Bible contains all that God chose to reveal--in that the Bible is complete. The text of the Bible is not God nor God's fullness--in that the Bible is incomplete. The Paraclete, who Christ promised to send to us, brings us closer to God--as close as our limited understanding and spiritual standing can get; yet we know only partially, then we will know as we are known (1 Corinthians 13:12)... of course we can twist Scripture and we can claim that we know all that there is to know about God because we read Scripture... or we can humble ourselves and accept that the finite cannot absorb the completeness of the infinite! Salvation is Granted through the Holy Spirit (Hebrew 9:14); the Holy Spirit has no limits! God Bless! Angel |
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3 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Searcher56 | 139082 | ||
Have you read the Bible in its entirety? Yes Do you think you know God's Design from reading it? Yes During which stage of Creation were the angels created? When precisely did Lucifer turn 1/3 of the angels against God? When are we to meet Jesus? When are we to change from the carnal body into the spiritual?... the Bible contains general information about all of these topics, yet we are not given the precise information to conclusively state "it happened exactly..." ... I am satisfied with not knowing this information. The Bible is complete. By saying "it is the Holy Spirit that completes all revelation" ... is dangerous because cult leaders say the same. As I study the Bible, I rather not look at the "experts" to see what they say. I do look later, and if I disagree, I question them. The Holy Spirit does give me insight, BUT ... I am not adding to Scripture ... it is only the meaning. |
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4 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Mommapbs | 139096 | ||
Greetings Searcher - do see Hank's post: 139060 You asked, "When are we to change from the carnal body into the spiritual?" Have we not been changed if indeed we are IN Christ? See Ezekiel 36:26; 2 Cor 5:17 Our restoration will be complete upon the death of our physical bodies, but we are ALIVE, no longer dead unto God as a result of our union with Christ - Christ in me, the hope of glory! Col 1:27 This is a reality oft overlooked by modern "believers!" It is the Spirit of the risen Christ who desires to guide us daily, but if we persisit in living from our flesh,(even when reading the Scriptures)relying upon our human wisdom and abilities,(Luke 11:35) we will stumble around in the dark. mommapbs |
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5 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139966 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, Your thoughts here led me to compare your verses and others. We don't want to be stumbling around in the dark; we want to walk in Him. 1 Peter 2:21, "For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in (His) steps." Colossians 2:6, "As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in (Him)." Ezekiel 36:27, And I will put My (s)Spirit within you and cause you to walk in (My) statutes,..." From the heart, Ray |
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6 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Mommapbs | 139967 | ||
Thanks for this Ray! When we walk IN Him, do you think we are more aware of the dark in contrast? Blessings, mommapbs |
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7 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139987 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, Your question is one that I have not thought about; and I get uncomfortable when I have to think. I have led a rather "sheltered" life and especially in my retirement I am not in my personal world witnessing for Him. So, in other words, I don't feel the powers of darkness getting worried about me and my witness and daily walk with Him. So in that sense I am not aware of the darkness; perhaps I would be more aware if I were more of a witness. Did you have something like that in mind? 1) I do believe that when one walks in Him and in His statutes and in His light, that little sins are regarded as big sins. One sees the contrast between good and evil more easily; wanting to make the gray areas of life even lighter. We know that we are not to sin. 1 John 2 comes to mind. 1 John 2:4, "The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God is perfected. By this we know that we are in Him; 6 the one who abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as (He) walked." 2) 1 John 2:3, "And by this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments." John 11:9, "Jesus answered, "Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the Light of this world." The darkness should be passing away according to verse 8 for the true Light is already shining. 1 John 2:10, "The one who loves his brother abides in the Light and there is no cause of stumbling in him. 11 But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going because the darkness has blinded his eyes." 3) 1 John 2:14, "...I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of (God) abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one." John 8:12, "Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, "I am the (Light) of the world; he who follows Me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the Light of life." The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God abides forever. 1 John 2:17. 4) The darkness is passing away, and the world is passing away, because we think of the things of the Spirit. Do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:5, "For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the (Spirit)." We belong to (Him), through His (Spirit) who indwells you, and are regarded as children of (God). That is how I have Romans 8 penciled in; looking at the law of the (Spirit)--of life in Christ Jesus. I hope it is helpful and meaningful to you as well. The parentheses are of course mine for comparison. From the heart, Ray |
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8 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Mommapbs | 140007 | ||
Greetings Ray - you witness here Ray! Thanks for your reply - number one basically address the subject well for me! Blessinga, mommapbs |
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