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1 | Joe, who is ya, man? | James 2:10 | Reformer Joe | 19348 | ||
Bill: I see no reference to Law here at all. The thrust here is against the licentiousness of the Gentiles who do not know Christ. Where do you conclude that legalism is in view here? Secondly, if this "truth" you put forward is so central and essential to a correct understanding of the gospel of Christ, how in the world could these regenerate individuals NOT know that they had a new self? Even if they could not detect it themselves, I doubt an apostle of God would only at this point mention this "essential point." --Joe! |
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2 | Joe, who is ya, man? | James 2:10 | Bill Mc | 19353 | ||
Joe, How could they not know? Because they had probably not been taught. Why do you think that the NT was written? It was to teach us of the wonderful mystery of the gospel, that 'Christ in you' is not just for the Jew, but also for the Gentile. You see a similar pattern in 2 Cor 5. In verse 18,19 Paul says that God has reconciled the whole world to Himself. Then He says that, in light of the fact that God has done this, BE (acknowledge, accept it, bank on it) reconciled - Vs. 20. If we view this without any discernment, we would say, "Why does Paul tell them to be reconciled if God has already done it? If it is something that God has done and it is an accomplished fact, then why would Paul tell THEM to do it?" Faith is putting your trust in what God has done. The Bible says that Christ was slain before the foundation of the world. But we know as a historical fact that it happened 2000 years ago. Is there a contradiction? No. It is a spiritual truth that we accept by faith. I think that Paul is telling this crowd something similar. God has created a 'new self' for you, so acknowledge it, put it on, utilize it. Is this understanding really that far fetched, Joe? Bill Mc |
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3 | Joe, who is ya, man? | James 2:10 | Reformer Joe | 19367 | ||
Bill: The NT was written as instruction. The point I was making was that this whole idea of the old self being non-existant is so predominant in your view that the associates of Paul responsible for planting the church in Ephesus (most likely Priscilla and Aquilla -- Acts 18) would have been pretty bone-headed not to have even mentioned it to the converts there. What verse are you referring to when you say that Christ was slain before the foundation of the world? I agree that God has created a new self for us. I also agree that there are vestiges of our old nature present, which is what we have to "put off." There is nothing you wrote in that last paragraph that I have a problem with. What I just don't get is your refusal to acknowledge that part of us just simply isn't righteous in practice. It is more than the fact that we are walking around in a biological construct (our bodies) that is defective despite our spiritual renewal. Every time I commit a sin, it is not because despite my attempts to fight it that I can't help myself. At the point in time that I sin, I do indeed place serving myself above honoring God. My problem is that I don't hate sin as much as God does, despite my regeneration. --Joe! |
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