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1 | The question stands | James 2:10 | charis | 19244 | ||
Dear Bill Mc, Greetings in the name of Jesus! With all due respect, my friend, Paul does not disagree with me, but YOU do! :-) (Paul has not been around to personally disagree with anyone for a LONG time) I don't really want to get involved in a 'tit for tat' type of argument. I think that if you were to look at the sum of the 'Law versus Grace' discussion raging on the forum these days, you would see that it has become kind of an 'Old Testament versus New Testament' battle. This is ridiculous! We have a Bible that includes the Old Testament for a purpose. If indeed the 'tutor' is truly 'abolished,' then we would be studying little pocket New Testaments with huge marginal notes. Bill, I am fully aware that my relationship with Jesus is entirely based on the New Covenant that God has graced us with. But we cannot 'do away with' the Old Testament, that is STILL a tutor to lead us to Christ. My note was in answer to a question asking the New Testament purpose of the Law. My contention (opinion) is that the common sense and wisdom of the Old Testament is still very much worthy of consideration, even though it has legally been superceded. Jesus fulfilled the Law, yes! But never did He say to 'chuck it.' Thank you for the many references, though! :-) In Christ Jesus, charis |
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2 | The question stands | James 2:10 | Bill Mc | 19248 | ||
Dear charis, I agree. The OT is a tutor to lead sinners to Christ. But once it has done that, and Christ makes us saints, we are no longer under it. Sure our Bibles have the OT. But they also have the NT. Contemporary Christian says that, in order to have the full revelation of how we live as Christians, we must meld them together. I.e. take all the Law and mix it with all of grace and then you will have the truth. That is like trying to mix oil and water. They are two different things. That is precisely why there is an Old Covenant and a New Covenant. A new will does indeed supercede any old one, as you have stated. But many on this forum would say that both wills apply. They imply that Christ saves you so that you can then fulfill the Law. I don't find this ridiculous, charis, I find this insulting to Christ's work. He said that it is finished. And I respectfully submit to you, dear charis, that Paul's words still stand - once you have come to Christ by faith, you are no longer under that old tutor. Free at last, free at last, Bill Mc |
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3 | The question stands | James 2:10 | charis | 19252 | ||
Dear Bill, Peace to you in Jesus' name! Brother, I have no argument against being a new creation in Christ Jesus! But honoring and revering the Old Testament as a perfectly complimentary 'teacher of Christ' could hardly be considered insulting. So now that you have 'finished with' your third grade English teacher (or college professor, or whatever), do you 'dismiss' them and void them from your memory? This would be to imply that YOU have graduated from their influence, and that YOU are better than they are. Sorry, but I don't have the ability to 'purge' myself from giving due respect and glory to the venerable (though superceded) Word of God. Nor have I come to the point that I, personally, am free from the life contained in the Old Testament. I do not consider myself to be 'under contract' to the Old Testament. But I will continue to read from it's holy pages and still learn. I find that mixing the 'intent' of the Law, and the fulfillment of the Law is not oil and water at all! In fact, I find the two to be very compatible. Please do not lump this together with those that worship the 'legal' Law and try to make us adhere to the letter. I, too, am set free from this bondage. :-) Out of curiosity I ask, have you read some of my other posts? I think that my heart would be evident to you if you had... In Christ Jesus, charis |
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4 | The question stands | James 2:10 | Bill Mc | 19270 | ||
Dear charis, I agree with your post, brother. If you will read some of my other posts, you would also see that I feel that the OT has its place. And I agree with the 'intent.' But there are many who would not, and preach the 'letter' instead of the intent. They preach that we must keep the Old Covenant. While they have as much right to preach Old Covenant here as I do to point to the New, it would be a travesty to let them continually go unchallenged. Yes, I have read many of your other posts (not all, too time consuming) and I think I know you're heart. I think you do a great job here on this forum. Especially at keeping the peace. Thanks for your work. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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