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1 | Define Faith. | Heb 11:1 | CDBJ | 34313 | ||
I thought the subject was faith! I did the best that I could do, I think trying to explain faith to someone that doesn't have it is like trying to explain television to someone from the dark ages that doesn't have a clue as to what you are talking about. Humanly speaking, faith is actually one of the three means of perception that we all use from our youth on up, Rationalism, empiricism and faith. Did your parent ever try to teach you the color of red? Prove it to me that what you see is the same color that I see and then try to explain color to a person that has been blind all of their life. That is what Jesus meant when he ask the question of his disciples as to who they thought he was. When Peter gave the right answer then Jesus told him that flesh and blood didn't reveal it to him but God the Father and as a result he was blessed because of what he knew. Now you are asking me to reveal something that only God the father can do with respect to the faith that is mentioned in the Bible, I DON'T THINK SO!! Matthew 16:15-17 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. I learned a good lesson from my dog a long time ago that chasing your tail can be a waist of time. It's been nice trying to talk to you, CDBJ |
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2 | Define Faith. | Heb 11:1 | Lionstrong | 34449 | ||
Thanks, CDBJ, Faith is you cannot say; only God can reveal it to you. You say it is not rational. Is it, therefore, irrational? You say it is not empirical. Does that mean one cannot show his faith by his works? Faith is....? Albeit, revealed by God, Peter did give an answer. Can you, brother? Peace, in the Lamb Lionstrong |
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3 | Define Faith. | Heb 11:1 | CDBJ | 34460 | ||
I think you better reread my post you are twisting what I said! (Humanly speaking), faith is actually (one of the three) means of perception that (we all) use (from our youth on up), Rationalism, empiricism and faith. You used faith before you even knew anything about God, or did you miss the words humanly speaking? When you learned things from your youth it was by at least one of the three that I mentioned, and faith was one of those three, or did you not understand my example of color?? |
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4 | Define Faith. | Heb 11:1 | Lionstrong | 34604 | ||
I would say I was "pushing" your definition :), proding you to say more, and you have! Thanks, CDBJ. I truly misunderstood you to mean that these means of perception were exclusive of each other, that a choice to used one is a rejection of the others. What you meant was that we all, in the course of our life, will employ each of these means of perception: rationalism (you spelled it with a capital R, but I think you were refering to the process of reasoning, not the philosophy), empiricism (not the philosophy, but experience), and faith (accepting God's revelation, I take you to mean. No, actually I don't know what you mean by faith, which is the point of this tree!). So, so far what I've gotten from you is that faith has something to do with perception. It is a means of perception. Yes, I can see that. Did you have 2 Cor 5:7 in mind: "for we walk by faith, not by sight--?" If this is your definition (faith is a means of perception), please sharpen it. How is THIS means of perception different from the other two, rationalism and empiricism? Yours for less twisting (not the dance!), Lionstrong |
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5 | Define Faith. | Heb 11:1 | CDBJ | 34606 | ||
No, I wasn't meaning II Cor. 5:7. I was simply stating that faith is something that all humans use in the learning process apart from God, His Word, and everything else that might be considered Spiritual. We are taught to believe or have faith in, or trust in, the things that our parents teach us, even though our parents can't prove it!!! I tried, and evidently with out much success, to show you this by using the color red. It's really no big deal, I was just stating a fact of perception. It would be like your parents saying that something is red, you just accept it by faith they can't prove it!!! Faith isn't something that is new with the Bible, no more no less. CDBJ |
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6 | Define Faith. | Heb 11:1 | Lionstrong | 34615 | ||
Thanks CDBJ! Now, is faith always or necessarily something that can't be proven? Can I have faith in something that can be proven? For example, is it a misuse or misunderstanding of faith to say, "I believe two plus two is four?" Or to put it another way, if something can be proven, does that proof then put it outside the perception of faith? Peace, Lionstrong |
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7 | Define Faith. | Heb 11:1 | CDBJ | 34621 | ||
Two plus two only adds up to four if you are starting with a number base of ten, algebra 101, but I'm sure that's not your point. Are we speaking before or after the fact of the action of faith? Romans 8:24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? Are you are going to tell me that the word hope or ELPIS isn't faith or PITTIS, then we have the long discussion on the Greek nominative and dative case, oh well fire away. This is fun anyway and we sure are studying to show ourselves approved, CDBJ |
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