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1 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | tanne9595 | 142050 | ||
Can anyone tell me where to find information on marraige in the bible. What the reasons for divorce in this day and age. Not of the past. What is excepted and what is not in the eyes of our lord. |
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2 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | greentwiga | 142051 | ||
Marriage: Simple The women is to be subject to the man but the man is to die daily for the woman. The man's command is harder to obey. 1 Cor 7, Eph 5:22 plus. Divorce: Many people discuss divorce with only a partial use of scriptures. Scripture is very clear on when people can get divorced and when they can get remarried but to see it, one needs to see all the relevant scriptures. There are three situations that allow for remarriage. Another question is around the nonChristian. Finally we need to look to see when one is allowed to separate but not remarry. There are two basic scriptural ideas about marriage that one should always remember. Matt 19:5-6 and Mark 10:7-9, in a discussion on divorce, Jesus says, “the two will become one flesh…. Therefore, what God has joined together, let man not separate.” In Mal 2:16 “I hate Divorce says the Lord.” So marriage is meant to be forever, and divorce is horrible. With that in mind, lets look at separation first. The Grounds for Separation Look at I Cor 7:10-11 “A wife must not separate from her husband. But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband.” Here we see allowances for extreme situations. When a partner is dangerous due to drugs, violence or a similar reason, God allows for escape from danger to protect the person or the children, but insists the person remain single in hope that healing would occur and the marriage could be renewed. Many use these types of events to say that the marriage covenant is broken and therefore justify being free to remarry. Though God hurts with them, He says it is only grounds to separate and stay single. There are very clear conditions for remarriage. The grounds for Remarriage First, there is a condition where nonChristians were divorced and remarried before salvation. If the person remarries and then becomes a Christian, the scripture does not clearly address this situation. I Cor 7:20 says, “Each one should remain in the situation which he was in when God called him.” This seems to allow the person to remain in the second marriage in peace. It would be wrong to force a second divorce on top of the first. I have heard of Christian pastors doing just that. If you are remarried when you become a Christian, stay remarried in peace. Second is a reason that everyone agrees allows a married person to get remarried. Rom 7:2-3 “a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage…and is not an adulteress even though she marries another man.” No one disputes that a widow is free to remarry. She is released from the marriage covenant. This also applies to a widower. I cut it in half to fit Greentwiga |
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3 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | tanne9595 | 142058 | ||
Greentwiga, Thank you so much for your quick response. I am studing 1 Cor. in my weds. bible study. Have recently been baptized. But not in my first marraige. In cor. it says something about being able to get a divorce if things are unbearable. Now what does that mean? I have been searching and searching for passages. And only find the ones in the old testment and some in the new. But a long time ago. I was told that divorce was recongized with physical cruelty, adultery or drunkenness. Yet, I don't find that in the bible. It is so hard to find what is right and wrong. Even though the bible is so clear on the way that we should live a christian life. Do you have anymore insight on this? |
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4 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | greentwiga | 142060 | ||
That long two letter response covers those things. It is a study that came out of my divorce. To sum it up, being widowed, adultery in the spouse, and a nonbeliever choosing to leave is the only grounds for divorce and being free to remarry. Physical Abuse, Emotional destruction, withdrawl of sex, and drugs have all been stated as giving a person the freedom to divorce and remarry. When my apparently believing spouse chose to leave, I had a terrible battle. I had a high sex drive and God said you must stay single. The verse is 1 Cor 10-11. If you need to get divorced, you must remain unmarried of get reconciled. I had to stay single. I cried, I prayed, I hurt, and God said, My grace is sufficient. Then she committed adultery, and I was free to remarry. I slowly looked, and finally 10 years after the divorce (9 after the adultery) I found a pearl of great price and married her. Read both halves carefully, and you should find a complete analysis of each divorce verse. needless to say, Physical or emotional abuse, or severe alcoholism that interferes with the ability to financially take care of the children is grounds to get divorced and stay single only. If you remarried without meeting the Biblical standards, divorce the new spouse to remarry the old, one disobeys the old Testament that forbids one to remarry the old spouse. Ask forgiveness and move on. Stay married to the new spouse. Your loving brother in Christ greentwiga |
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5 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | tanne9595 | 142066 | ||
Thank you very much for your insight and answers that I have been searching for. I value every word that you have written. I have for years believed in God. But did not take it to the level of studing the bible. Now, that I have hit 37 and had some rough roads in my life. I find that the reason for it. Was not having total trust in the lord. Being rebaptized and all. I want to walk as cleanly as us on earth can. We will always have that sin. But we can think things out more clearly with God's help. Things are not easy being married. It takes so much to make things work in this day and age. When I started reading the old testament. And then now the new. I see that we have it so much easier than before christ. But we still have the evils of the world to over come. The devil has put so much more temptation in our way. Trying to win the battle. But he won't win over god and the good that is in loving and believing he is the only savior. That only through him and his sacrifice for us on the cross. Can we strive to do the right thing. I am finding in my new searches that one says that the bible is black and white. And can only percieved as it is written. But I feel that is not the case. As no one reads and understand the same thing. Example. 10 people will read a verse and 10 different meaning they will get. When my dear friend and pasture. Told me of this web site. I logged right on. As it is nice to be able to get others views. And so far yours are exactly to how I believe. I can not thank you enough again. And god bless. I am sure that I will post other questions. There is so much that I want to learn and so much that I am confused on the passages. Hope that you will be the one to answer the next questions that I post when I need some help. Take care and god bless you. |
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6 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | greentwiga | 142069 | ||
You are so sweet. They way I look at what you say is that there are many applications. God shows us things that help us to see what to do. When you read the chapter on marriage in 1 Cor 7, you might need a different application, though we read exactly the same words. Is that what you were saying? Greentwiga |
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7 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | tanne9595 | 142074 | ||
Yes, that is what I mean. For example before moving to South texas from Central texas. I attended First Christian. In the small town that I live in now. There is only a church of Christ. I love the people in the fellowship. But it is a very tight nit congregation. And they have views that I don't agree with. I went for a visit to my good friend. And asked him to baptize me. As I believe that it is not the name that is hung on the door of a church. It is what is in your heart. Many say that I am wrong on those views. But I don't know the passage. But I read that it is loving the lord and believeing that he is the son of christ that has died for our sins. So that we may ask for forgiveness. And if we are sincere in our asking. We are forgiven. I have asked one memeber to tell me where in the bible that it has a spacific name. As my preacher and dear friend said that there are 5 churches of christ in the town I used to live in. And in that each one studies the bible in a different way. For example. One memeber decided to open shop on Sunday and not attend church. The congrigation stood up and read this letter that they wrote this family. Telling them that if they did not come and ask for forgiveness of the church members that they were to not eat or associate with them. I almost feel out of my chair. As in my opionion. And we all have one. That if you push the one that is doing wrong away. How in the world will you convince him that what he is doing is wrong. To turn the other cheek and treat him badly. When I stated my view, I was told that there has to be dicipline in the church. And he must ask the members for forgiveness. I ask them if they were god. That are they going to stand next to this family on their judgement day. Saying I told you so. Or will this family stand by themselves on judgement day and have to explain why he or she did what they did. I said I do believe that it will be them alone that has to explain their actions. And that we need to love our brothern. Meaning you don't have to go and be best friends with this person. But not to turn your check if they walk down the road and say hi. Now, back to marriage and divorce. The book that I am studing right now is 1 Corinthians by Mike Willis. In chapter 7. Which caused me to write to this forum. There are questions that are kind of confusing. Example. There are six questions about false doctorines and how would I answer them. I had no answer. So I wrote my preacher. And he gave me his vies. If you have time. Could you tell me what your views on the 6 questions are? 1.Paul says that every man should be able to marry in order to avoid fornication. 1 Cor. 7:2 2.Is it better to marry than to burn in lust? 1 Cor. 7:9 3.If one's mate deserts him, he is not under bondage. 7:15 4. Paul teaches that Jesus Teaching on divorce and remarriage in Matt. 19:9 does not apply to non christians. 1 Cor. 7:12. Therefore, those who wish to be baptized should stay with the mate they are married to at the time of baptizm. 5.Paul teaches Christians to abide in the calling wherein he was called 1 Cor. 7:20. A person should stay in a marriage he is when he is baptized. 6. Paul tells those divorced "loosed" That they have not sinned if they remarry. I have the answers from my preacher. But would like to see if yours are somewhat the same. My pastor also said these words to me. " Some times remarriage after a divorce is portrayed as a sin which god will not forgive. Thie is an error. Jesus specifically says only one sin is not forgivable, and that is the sin against the Holy Spirit Matt. 12:31 Aslo in every age since the beginning the divil would do his work starting with the family. The family is vulnerable because we are weak as human beings. God knows this, as the Psalmist says " HE knows how we're made. He remembers that we're dust. Psalm 103:14. Because God is our father and creator, he is able to love and forgive us our most awful offences. He taught us to pray " forgive us our sins as we forgive those that sin against us" If we can forgive those who sin against us in relationships. Then surely god can do so even more". No, matter your answer. I am the type of person that honors and excepts and loves all that have their own opinion. As that is why we are all so different. Never is one person better than the other. We all have our own special way of thinking. But the bible is clear yet unclear as God has made us our own individual being. Or we would not have other views. If that makes any sense. I am searching so hard. And I pray that the right anwers will come. As I need some insight right now in my life. Thank you again for your time. I look forward to hearing from you. If and when you answer those 6 questions. I will let you know if you and my preacher see it the same way. I will give you his answers to the question. I can not give you mine. As I did not know the answers. |
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8 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | greentwiga | 142075 | ||
Whew, such a lot to say. First, are you a child of God? I know you are. Does he love you even more than you love your owhn family? Is he giving you the best, and teaching you? Absolutely. Therefore relax. Sometimes when thisngs were tough, I had to repeat words like this as a mantra. It helps me overcome self doubt. We can help each other understand, but each has a choice. You can choose to listen to God, or your own selfish interests. We know the truth, but blind ourselves. See Rom 12:1-2 on how when we give ourselves to God, we know his will. Here you instinctively knew that though the church needs discipline, just like in II Cor, being too harsh can destroy a mans walk with God. I had a daughter who dropped out of High school. She knew that I disapproved of whet she was doing. Nevertheless, I kept contacting her and loving her. She is now in college. Keep believing in that new creation that you are. God don't make no junk. In answering your questions, we must look at what is usually ignored. Does God give cultural or time period statements in the passage. For example, Paul says tht because of the times (the persecution) that people should not marry. Another time he says that he wishes that all men were like him. This could mean he naturally had a low sex drive, or that he had the victory over needing sex. Compare those statements to the one about every man should marry. All statements have to be true, so I Cor 7:2 can't be strictly interpreted as all men must marry. In 1 Cor 7:9, we compare that to Matt 5:28 where burning in lust is adultery in the mind. Yes, it is better to be single in times of trouble, but it is better to marry that to burn, or worse, committ immorality. Remember, back then, there were people teaching that marriage was evil. We must reject all such worldly things. Paul saying, relax. Single is good, marriage is good. It does not say "If ones mate deserts him". It says if an unbeliever leaves. Let's say you are emotionally abusive (I know you are not) and your husband realizes he will commit suicide if he doesn't leave. He, a believing Christian leaves to save his life, but stays single and prays for you. You though claim righteousness, because you always blame others rather than listen to God and repent. You claim abandonment and remarry. God is not fooled by such people, but it goes on all the time. If the unbeliever can't stand the new righteous you that no longer joins him in the "gentile" ways and leaves, you are free to remarry. Notice the difference the spouse leaves because of your sin or because of your righteousness. Only the second frees you to remarry. I believe that Paul's and Jesus' teachings on Marriage perfectly mesh. Adultery breaks the marriage contract. There is no marriage, unless you choose to forgive. Thus you can divorce. The unbeliever is not under God's law in the way that the jew or Christian is. You must keep your covenants because God demands it. If an unbeliever leaves, the covenant is broken, but if he chooses to stay, do like Paul says and stay. In both cases, the Christian stays if at all possible, but if the partner ends the marriage in these situations, you are free to remarry. I see no contridiction. You had the heart to stay. Compare the sentance structure of loosed to widows. One is no longer under bondage but free to remarry. The other is loosed and free to remarry. the sentances are identical with two words of similar ideas used. Compare Ephesians and Colossians. Two identical books, but the passages are written with the same construction but different words. Thus, if widows are free to remarry (and they are) then when unbelievers leave, the spouse is free to remarry. Greentwiga |
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9 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | tanne9595 | 142086 | ||
Yes, God loves me more than my own family. Jesus died for us so that we may be forgiven of our sins. I beleive all of that so very deep in my heart. As a child I wanted to go to church. But was in a family that did not really believe. I would go any chance that I got. You have such knowledge of the bible. You must have been studing it for years. The answers that my preacher gave me to each question are like yours.Here is just the answers he gave. 1.This is true of a divorced person as well as a never married person. It is wrong for any person, single or divorced to commit fornication. 2. This is true wwhether their marriage was disolved on scriptural or non-scriptural grounds. 3.This is true regardless of what might have occured prior i.e. another marriage to the desertion. 4.Paul really doesn't teach that Jesus teaching about divorce exempts anyone. Jesus said himself it applies to "anyone" Matthew 5:31 5.A person should remain in the "situation he was in when God called him" To fail to do so is to sin. It is not, however, an unpardonable sin. When David took another man's wife, she became his wife and God sen the prophet to say "The Lord has taken away your sin..." 1Samuel 12:13. IF forgiveness was possible under the old Testament with the cross, isn't it even more so now under the blood of Jesus? 6. Yes, he does say that those who have been loosed from a companion are free to marry and will not commit sin if they marry. This , however , goes back to the priciple taught earlier it is better to marry than to burn with lust. I am sure you are a smart enough person to know that I am having troubles in decideing what to do with the life that I have now. However, I don't want to write it down for the world to see. I have to thank you so much for your insight. And hope that the next few letters will lighten my heart. You were right to stand by your daughter. I have a daughter that is graduating this year. I am very proud of her. She holds a 4.0 grade adverage. She is apply to college to get a doctorine in phycology. She is as smart as her father. As you can see by my spelling she excells past me. I look forward to your next letter. God bless you. |
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10 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | greentwiga | 142088 | ||
Did you know that this site allows you to write a small personal profile? I have one, if you need some counsel. I won't say things to tickle your ears, that is things that you want to hear, if they are against scripture. Though I had to spend 10 years single, I have been truly blessed with a Godly woman this time. God gives great joy to those who wait on his will and timing. As for your pastor, people who truly listen to the word will say similar things. greentwiga |
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11 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | tanne9595 | 142096 | ||
I will look for the personal profile. I hope it is not a dateing scene. I will put myself on there as tanne9595 I would love to talk to someone that has no personal relationship with me. For straight forward answers. |
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12 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | greentwiga | 142097 | ||
That is why I stressed my love for my wife, my pearl of great price. Greentwiga |
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13 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | tanne9595 | 142099 | ||
what do I go into for the personal profile. I can not find it. |
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14 | What are our duties as man and wife | Eph 5:1 | greentwiga | 142105 | ||
click on a person's name where it says author in the lists of questions or subjects, usualy below the article you are reading | ||||||