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1 | gift of healing same as prayer of faith | 1 Cor 12:9 | Morant61 | 159470 | ||
Greetings Doc! I said that "I" find no Scriptural basis for that position, and I don't. I didn't say anything about anyone else! ;-) Scripture doesn't mention the canon, or the closing of the canon, or define the 'perfect' of v. 8. We can guess all day what it might be, but Scripture never says. Further, 'healings' are not even mentioned in this passage anyway. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | gift of healing same as prayer of faith | 1 Cor 12:9 | DocTrinsograce | 159494 | ||
Okay, Brother Tim... well, now you know how to leave the proper implications. I'm glad we're coming along in this respect. It is certainly good that things on the forum don't have to be one sided! You don't deem the passage in Revelation 22 to be a reference to the closing of the canon? Protestant orthodoxy has held that position for quite a while. Indeed, I don't recall anyone questioning it in a scholarly sense until higher criticism came along. Nor do I recall it being questioned theologically until some of the SDA and LDS cults came along. Is your perspective unique or is my exposure to deliberation on this topic limited? All physical healing, anywhere, everywhere, under any circumstances is temporary and from a merciful, righteously beneficent God. Since people heal today, it would not have ceased. In Him, Doc |
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3 | gift of healing same as prayer of faith | 1 Cor 12:9 | Morant61 | 159499 | ||
Greetings Doc! Does Rev. 22 refer to the closing of the canon? Rev. 22:7 says, "Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book." What is 'this book'? I would say that the 'book' is the same one mentioned in Rev. 1:11 - "which said: 'Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.'" In other words, it is a reference to the 'book' that John is writing, not the Bible as a whole. I know that some have believed this to be a reference to the Bible, but it seems to me that this is a major example of eisgesis. In fact, at one point, there were those who thought that Revelation was the last book of the Bible written, because it was last in the Bible. But, there is evidence that it was not the last book written. So, if that makes me a SDA or and LDS, I'm sorry! ;-) p.s. - It is amazing the number of times that cults come into the discussion whenever you disagree with me on a point. :-( Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | gift of healing same as prayer of faith | 1 Cor 12:9 | DocTrinsograce | 159517 | ||
Dear Brother Tim, Regarding the pertinent passage in Revelation: Is this your own interpretation, or does it represent a scholarly perspective? I'd like to read a bit more on it, but all of my sources take the opposite stance. I'd appreciate your sending me any references you might have. Thank you! In Him, Doc |
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5 | gift of healing same as prayer of faith | 1 Cor 12:9 | Morant61 | 159522 | ||
Greetings Doc! I have read it in various places as well, but it also makes good logical sense and good exegetical sense. 'This book' refers to a specific book. The Bible had not been canonized when Revelation was written, so why would someone assume that 'this book' refers to the Bible? Secondly, might it not be that this could represent both my interpretation and a scholarly perspective? :-) I would hope that the two are not mutually exclusive. ;-) But, here are some quick references. Barnes says of the phrase 'this book' in Rev. 22:18: "The reference here is to the book of Revelation only - for at that time the books that now constitute what we call the Bible were not collected into a single volume. This passage, therefore, should not be adduced as referring to the whole of the sacred Scriptures. Still, the principle is one that is thus applicable; for it is obvious that no one has a right to change any part of a revelation which God makes to man; to presume to add to it, or to take from it, or in any way to modify it." A. T. Robertson says of Rev. 22:18: "This warning is directed against perversions of this book, not about the New Testament or the Bible as a whole, though it may be true there also. " These few should suffice to demonstrate that I am not alone in my view. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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