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1 | Prerequisite-infallibility? | 1 Cor 12:27 | charis | 12650 | ||
Dear Tim, and Prayon, Excuse me for butting in... As I understand it, you interpret the word 'messenger' as 'revealer,' and that the revelation must be on par with God's Word, so therefore there are no more apostles or prophets, because the canon is finished. Is that fair? But why must every message be revelatory? When you preach a sermon, do you not use modern illustration and anecdote to portray the Gospel? Strictly speaking, you are 'adding' what the Holy Spirit led you to add. Are you then blaspheming? I don't think so. I think that the church has artificially elevated the ministry of apostle and prophet to an 'office,' and that we come close to worshipping these simple, humble men of God. ( Paul put away his 'office' when he renounced his Pharisee background ) They were ministers and servants used by God. They performed His work. God continues to call His servants to do the same thing, minus the writing of the Bible. (where does it say that apostles and prophets have to write books of the Bible?) Indeed, my fellow servant, anyone who claims to have *new revelation* is false. But you won't hear much about the true apostles and prophets, because they are just serving their God in the calling He chose. God wrote the Bible, not apostles and prophets. God continues to use His anointed ministers. My friend, though there are many abusers of this title, there are even more faithful to His calling. Please do not use the example of the abusers to deny the church of His chosen ministers. This would lead us to say that false pastors (wolves) negates true pastors. Frankly, your last paragraph was sensationalism at best, and fallacious logic at worst :-) What a generalization! Pastors asking for new cars (in the Holy Spirit) will impregnate our children! My question must be, "Was he independent or part of a denomination?" Tim, this kind of abuse has been with us regardless of *revelation knowlege* or any bias! Exalted 'office-holders' have committed such acts and worse since the beginning. How do we argue with false ministers? We don't. We stay away, and preach the Word. We advise the saints to discern truth as written in the Bible. We encourage one another to search for truth, and ask the Holy Spirit to guide us personally in His Word, and through His chosen messengers. The two will agree. Again, pardon my intrusion. (But this IS a forum :-) In Jesus' name, charis |
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2 | Prerequisite-infallibility? | 1 Cor 12:27 | Morant61 | 13125 | ||
Greetings Charis! You are always welcome to intrude my friend! I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier, but my computer has been down. We apparently disagree on this issue. I do believe that Apostles were limited to the founding of the church. I also believe that prophecy, only in the sense of new revelation, ended with the completion of Scripture. Concerning my example, I was only trying to illustrate that one can't argue with "new revelation." There are a lot of false teachers out there who claim that God showed them something, but it is false. By the way, he was a member of a denomination, but left after the episode I described. He then started an independent church. I don't remember which denomination he was in for sure. I'm sort of at a loss concerning how to proceed from this point, so let me ask you a question. How do you define apostles and prophets and what is their function in the church today? Sorry, that was two questions. :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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