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1 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78075 | ||
Dear Tim, You statement "Most translations, and rightfully so, try to be as literal as possible" is not addressing the issue. Your job is to show me any translation that depicts the passage as you render it. You can't do it: literal or non-literal translation. Second, the 'baptism clause' in its completeness does not end with '...', but includes 'for the remission of sins.' I asked about the entire verse, is it translated correctly? Repentance is not a work? Really? To 'turn from sin' is not a work. If you want to take that path, then let me do so as well and say that 'baptism is not a work' and salvation follows. Since no one here has suggested that anything is done to "earn salvation", I think it shows a personal bias and is unfair to the other person. Neither I, nor anyone else on this forum, has ever suggested that repentance or baptism is about 'earning salvation', so why even bring it up? We will both attack that straw man. :) "Acceptance of a gift is not a work". Call if what you want, but it's what you must do. "After we RECEIVE" Here's one of my problems with such arguments. The Bible doesn't just tell us to 'receive' Christ, it tells us HOW to receive Christ. You and others can talk about the necessity of ACCEPTING CHRIST into your hearts, but you don't tell me how that is done. Excuse me, but you do. When pressed for an answer, we are told to pray and ask Jesus into our hearts. Give me Scripture and then tell me that the necessity to pray isn't a work. Put your hand on the radio or computer monitor and pray with me... I understand your desire to credit God completely for your salvation; I have the same desire. My forgiveness is not by works of righteousness, but by faith in Christ. But without the works, there is NO FAITH. Good day to you, Disciplerami |
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2 | Whose works are required for faith? | Acts 2:38 | Mommapbs | 78093 | ||
Greetings Disciplerami! You wrote, "without the works, there is NO FAITH." Whose works are required for faith? What are they? mommapbs |
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3 | Whose works are required for faith? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78196 | ||
Greetings, John 6:27 "Do not work for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you, for on Him the Father, God, has set His seal." John 6:28 Therefore they said to Him, "What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?" John 6:29 Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent." Good day, Disciplerami |
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4 | Rejection of the work of God? | Acts 2:38 | Mommapbs | 78237 | ||
Greetings, if I read this correctly, the finished work of Christ is is the work of God that we choose to accept or reject. One's faith is dead apart from accepting the "work" of God. According to what you have written can we say that the person who has not accepted the "work of God" is "dead" spiritually? mommapbs |
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5 | Rejection of the work of God? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78261 | ||
Greetings, Yes, I would say that if someone doesn't 'accept' the work of God, that person is spiritually dead. No one is going to heaven accept through the righteousness of Christ, credited to him through faith. Faith that pleases God, does not merely hear, does not merely acknowledge, but it does the will of God. Because this DOING is by faith, not by merit, God credits it as righteousness. "But to the one who does not work [does not work to merit eternal life, ME], but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness." - Rom. 4:5 Without faith, works that would be pleasing to God, would be rubbish. Out of faith, I try to let my "light shine before men in such a way THAT THEY MAY SEE [MY] GOOD WORKS and glorify God who is in heaven." - Matthew 5 Thanks and nice communicating with you, Disciplerami |
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6 | Rejection of the work of God? | Acts 2:38 | Mommapbs | 78319 | ||
Greetings! I'm not quite finished . . . since this thread is about baptism, I'd like to clarify my position and present my reasoning: If the person without the Spirit works in the flesh, then the work of water baptism belongs to unregenerated flesh and not God. Therefore, water baptism cannot save because it is not a work of God.("You cannot serve two masters" comes to mind) This is in contrast to the regeneration that takes place by the Spirit (He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit. Titus 3:5) "In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation--having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise" Eph 1:13 One receives Christ as Savior, when one believes (trust, cling to, adhere to, rely on) Him for salvation, you are then baptized (placed) into the body of Christ BY the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:13). THIS IS NOT WATER BAPTISM. Jesus said, "Apart from me you can DO nothing." (John 15:5) and as affirmation of this we are commanded to be filled with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 5:18). To be "filled" with the Spirit means to be "controlled" (not like a robot or puppet) and "empowered" by the Holy Spirit. When a believer is obedient water baptism, I believe we see a physical manifestation of an inward reality; we see the Holy Spirit at WORK in the life of the believer. Please consider Ephesians 2:10 which declares that believers are God's WORKmanship, "created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them." God does the ALL work! He gives us the finished work of Christ that we respond to by accepting or rejecting. Based upon the choice of our faith, He either creates a "new creature in Christ" (2 Cor 5:17) or condemns the one who rejects such a great salvation! Ephesians 2:8-10 prompts me to see water baptism as a "good work" that God has prepared for believers to join Him in AFTER salvation. mommapbs |
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