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1 | What does the word"believe"involve | John 3:16 | EdB | 226830 | ||
With all due respect to my brother in the Lord Lionstrong I believe his view of believe is dispelled in James 2:19. Saving belief requires more than simple belief, as James said even the demon believe. If we read the passage in context James 2:17-20 (NKJV) 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18 But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe--and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? We see that Pisteuo belief requires more than mere acceptance of truth be must become dependent on that truth. If we aren't dependent on what we believe then we don't have Pisteuo belief. |
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2 | What does the word"believe"involve | John 3:16 | Lionstrong | 226836 | ||
Let me see if I understand you, Ed. Are you saying that the James passage requires us to define believe as works? If James "dispels" to believe for salvation as an internal mental activity of accepting God's word as true, then we are saved by external good works. So, please clarify. You reference James to help us understand what believe means. So, does believe also mean doing the good works of God's law? If this is not what you're saying, please clarify |
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3 | What does the word"believe"involve | John 3:16 | EdB | 226851 | ||
I referrenced you to James because James refutes what you said. To just believe(head knowledge if you will) will not save you. As James clearly states the demons believe and they aren't saved. We must believe to the point of being dependent on Jesus Christ for our salvation. | ||||||
4 | What does the word"believe"involve | John 3:16 | Lionstrong | 226882 | ||
John 20:30 Therefore many other signs Jesus also performed in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; John 20:31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name. James 2:19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. Ed, You seem to be defining believing as simply knowing the truth. That’s not the definition I gave. Saving faith is not simply knowing (understanding) the truth about Christ. It is also assenting to that truth. It is knowing the truth AND accepting it as the truth. I know the doctrines of evolution, but that does not me a believer of evolution. I do not believe evolution even though I know its teachings. James does not contract Paul. He does not teach that we’re saved by believing and doing something good. In the James verse the only object of faith that’s attributed to the demons is monotheism. While believing that the God of Abraham is monotheistic is a good thing, such faith will not save you from the condemnation of His Law. But by believing that Jesus is the Christ the Son of God you will have life in his name. (John 20:30, 31) Further, Jesus did not die for demons. “[W]hoever believes in Him shall not perish...” is not addressed to devils; it’s address to man. |
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5 | What does the word"believe"involve | John 3:16 | EdB | 226910 | ||
Lionheart I did not mention James to suggest works, or any of the other things people bicker over James about. Lionheart let us go back to your example. Just for the moment lets us say you did believe in evolution (which we all know you don't) but let us just say you did. That would still be only head knowledge belief and would fall short of the full meaning of the word Pisteuo. For you to Pisteuo believe in evolution would require you to be willing to die to defend it should that be required. Don't misunderstand I'm not saying we must die or anything else what I trying to show is a life staking dependance in what we Pisteuo believe. I mentioned James because it gives a perfect example. Demons! Demons not only believe in Jesus they have seen Him, they know who He is, what He is, and what He capable of, in fact they know He can command them. What they don't do is depend on Him. They mistakenly depend on something else. Too many know Jesus, believe in Jesus, even like Jesus, perhaps even worship and pray to Jesus but unfortantely they aren't depending on Jesus alone. The depend on their own abilities, they own wisdom and yes in some cases their own good works. The real key to understanding the Greek word "Pisteuo" used here which we translate as "believe" is DEPENDANCE. We have to so hold to what we pisteuo believe we depend on it. |
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6 | What does the word"believe"involve | John 3:16 | lionheart | 226937 | ||
EdB, The post you are replying to was from Lionstrong. This is a subject that has long been argued, and wrongly interpreted. There can be no argument that we are saved by faith. No faith, no salvation, no nothing. What we do in our lives after we come to Christ flows from faith. Our actions or works if you want to refer to them as such will evidence the reality of our salvation or the absence of it. We have a plethora of scriptures available to us that shed light on this issue. Hebrews chapter 11 being one example. In Him, lionheart |
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7 | What does the word"believe"involve | John 3:16 | EdB | 226945 | ||
Lionheart I apologize to you. And you are right we are saved by faith. However the word believe used in John 3:16 is translated from the Greek word Pisteuo of which I gave meaning. You must believe to the point of being dependant on your belief for you to have pisteuo belief. |
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8 | What does the word"believe"involve | John 3:16 | lionheart | 226971 | ||
Ed, No offense taken buddy. I did read your reply to Lionstrong and what I was saying in regards to James is that the works we do are a result of our faith in Christ and that our faith is not the result of the works themselves. In Him, lionheart |
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