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1 | IS LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN A PARABLE | Luke 16:19 | SBoone | 156838 | ||
Hi again Mark, I really am looking forward to discussing some other topics that I'm sure you and I would hold in common. Your clear way of presenting your opinion is very challenging when you don't agree. The way I would read this is that the devil possessed woman who was "calling up Samuel" really thought she saw Samuel. Saul who was disobeying God really thought he was seeing Samuel. A Commentary, Critical and Explanatory, on the Old and New Testaments gives arguements in favor of "that this was a mere deception", but goes on to state "many eminent writers, are of opinion that Sameul really appeared. Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible : Complete and Unabridged in One Volume says "to think that any good souls would come up at the beck of an evil spirit, or that God, who had denied a man the benefit of his own institutions, would suffer him to reap any real advantage by a cursed diabolical invention, was very absurd". He goes on to state that a saint would not "come up" since they are taken up at their death. Matt 7:17,18 "So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad furit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit". I would say that a devil possesed medium could not produce a real saint. I share your feelings toward Bible study. "My wisdom" is foolishness, so as the Lord reveals scripture to me I gladly cast off my foolishness in favor of His wisdom. Your brother, SBoone |
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2 | IS LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN A PARABLE | Luke 16:19 | mark d seyler | 156845 | ||
Hi SBoone, We can leave this subject behind us if you wish, that's ok. I have one question for you though. How are we to understand the Bible if Samuel did not appear to Saul? What in the text actually tells us that it was not Samuel? And if there is nothing to tell us that except our own common sense, well, brother, let me tell you! My sense isn't quite so common, as those who know me better would be happy, oh so happy, to attest! But seriously, how would we know? If it's just opinion, everybody has an opinion, and coincidentally, one or two may agree, but how could we actually know? But if, on the other hand, God selected every word, intentionally, knowing that 3000 years later Mark would be scratching his head wondering if it really was Samuel or not, and since God wrote the Bible to teach us,well, why mislead us by saying it was Samuel when it wasn't? And if, in fact, it wasn't Samuel, then this is a misleading passage, and how do we trust the rest of it? This story was not written by a demon-possessed woman who was deluded by her familiars. It was written by the Holy Spirit, Who knows exactly what happened. What do you think? Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | IS LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN A PARABLE | Luke 16:19 | SBoone | 156890 | ||
Hi Mark, This is indeed a very powerful arguement. I would never encourage someone to use their own wisdom to interpret scripture. The only thing we can do is interpret scripture with scripture. The Bible talks about the sun rising and setting. The Bible talks about the four corners of the Earth. Should we take every word literally in scripture? My answer is absolutely yes! Unless the context of the entire scriptures proves otherwise. The Bible teaches that the dead don't know anything, their thoughts have perished, and they do not comprehend the things on earth. It is in this context that I would suggest that when the Bible says it was Samuel it is in contect of the witch and Saul believing it was Samuel, but was infact exactly what we would expect should a witch call up a dead person to speak to us today. I feel it is very important not to place our wisdom or our tradition in a higher standing than that of scripture. Is that clarifying my thoughts or complicating things further? God bless, SBoone |
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