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1 | mathew 10:11 | Matt 10:14 | humbledbyhisgrace | 197029 | ||
Greetings kmo! Welcome to the Study Bible Forum! Take a look at verse 14. This should help you understand who is worthy!!! Steve |
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2 | mathew 10:11 | Matt 10:14 | skccab | 197033 | ||
Shalom Steve, It seems to me that verse 14 is after the fact. Just because a household would be deemed worthy to put the disciples up for their stay in the city doesn't mean they would accept the message - it just means that the household was Torah-observant (God had told them to welcome and take care of travelling strangers because they too had been strangers (Deut. 10:18-19). Cheri |
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3 | mathew 10:11 | Matt 10:14 | humbledbyhisgrace | 197034 | ||
Greetings Cheri! I don't know what else to say??? The immediate context seems to speak for itself. What I don't see in the passage is anything at all about the "Torah-observant person or household". Matthew 10:11-15 (NASB) 10:11 "And whatever CITY or village you enter, inquire who is WORTHY in it, and stay at his HOUSE until you leave that CITY. 10:12 "As you enter THE HOUSE, give it your greeting. 10:13 "If THE HOUSE is WORTHY, give it your blessing of peace. But if it is NOT WORTHY, take back your blessing of peace. 10:14 "Whoever does not RECEIVE you, NOR HEED YOUR WORDS, as you go out of THAT HOUSE or THAT CITY, shake the dust off your feet. 10:15 "Truly I say to you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that CITY. Emphasis added to the above passage is mine Steve |
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4 | mathew 10:11 | Matt 10:14 | skccab | 197040 | ||
Steve, Whether they would be called "Torah-observant" (that was just my choice of phrasing) just simply means they would be Jewish and followers of the commandments . But still verses 13 and 14 seem to be after the fact. And the question was "how would they KNOW who is worthy." That's what I was trying to answer - they would be someone who is observant of the commandments given by God to Moses. :-) Then if they received the message of the good news the disciples peace would remain, if not, the peace would not remain (verses 13 and 14). Cheri |
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5 | mathew 10:11 | Matt 10:14 | stjohn | 197045 | ||
Dear Sister Cheri, I hope you are not suggesting that by observing the law, or being, "Torah observant", as you phrased it, would give the Apostles reason to call anyone worthy. It was, however, the criteria that our Lord said to use to, [find a house] to stay in, however, it was not the means to ultimately determine who was, after-all, worthy. It is very important to see that there was/is really no way to know who was/is, worthy, unless, they received them and the massage of salvation, which is, not by works of the law, or being, "Torah observant". Verses 13 and 14 may well be, "after the fact", but it is indeed the only criteria by which our Lord gives the Apostles to ultimately deem them, worthy. Remember Cheri, the Pharisees were observant of the law, or so they thought, and our Lord reserved His most scathing rebuke for them, and, showed His love to those who received Him, such as, sinners, tax collectors, fornicators and the like. Now of corse, we understand that, this particular ministry was exclusively for Israel, and was, a call to repentance, but, none the less, God finds those worthy that receive His free gift of grace and simply believe in Him that is, all sufficient, there is nothing in observing the Torah or keeping the commands that will make anyone worthy. I hope you understand, I'm not picking on you, dear Sister, I'm just making sure, and, that it's clear for others that may be reading along. God bless John |
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6 | mathew 10:11 | Matt 10:14 | skccab | 197048 | ||
Hey John, No, I was not answering as per the standards today, but of then. Obeying the commandments does not bring grace, favor, salvation, a closerness (word?), none of that - it's just commanded. I was using the criteria of then. A home that would be deemed "worthy" would be someone following the commandments because it was commanded that they take the stranger into their homes and treat them kindly because they were once strangers (out of Deut). THEN if they received the message of the good news the peace upon the disciples would either remain or leave with them. Not ALL Jews of that day would have been "observant" just like not all Christians are observant today. That's the distinction that I was making. Nothing more, nothing less. And for those reading along - being "Torah-observant" simply means that this is INSTRUCTION on how to live and treat others - and the Holy Spirit of Jesus gives the ability to understand the spirit of the Law (not the letter which is what the Pharisees understood so well). I hope this clears things up for you. Jesus saves!!! Torah lives!! :-) Cheri |
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7 | mathew 10:11 | Matt 10:14 | stjohn | 197050 | ||
Amen Sister, No problem understanding your reason for saying that a orthodox follower of the Torah would be deemed as someone who would receive a stringer. I was not questioning that at all, and although it is not specifically spelled out in the context of Matt 10, and therefore might be construed as speculation, It would not be a stretch, I think, to come to that conclusion, i.e. a worthy house would be one that was following the law and therefor would be welcoming to the stranger. And Cheri, I know well, that you don't think that the law can save or bring "closerness" :-). Thanks for clearing that up! That works for me Sis! God bless John |
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