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1 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | Morant61 | 155671 | ||
Greetings Russ! Certainly, we are commanded to be witnesses. As I said earlier, I find no Scripture to support the position that we cannot share experiences. However, I also pointed out that experiences may or may not be true. Therefore, they are not authoritative. Scripture must be the judge. I have heard many 'testimonies' that were false. :-( As far as sermon with nothing but quotes from the Bible go, they would be better than much of what we hear preached nowdays! ;-) No one is suggesting that every word on this forum must be a Bible quote, but we do believe that every word should be Biblical since this is a Bible study forum. :-) I have been a part of this forum for a long time now and I have seen many bizare things posted as 'true' without any support from Scripture. As far as near death experiences go, I would never 'scorn' someone for claiming to have had one, but I don't personally find them particularly enlightening since I already know from Scripture that there is life after death. :-) Well, I have to run now! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155673 | ||
Thank you for the speedy reply brother Tim, and if I offended i surly apologize, for that was not my intent. I was 10-10ing... from 1Co 10:10 "And do not grumble..." After reading this forum for a while and seeing all of the post about not posting scripture, well, I am sorry, I had to post, and this was the first post for me here in some time. Seems that every time I post something here, I get flamed. Here I go 10-10ing again. Sorry, you just happened to answer. I humbly beg your forgiveness and that of the fourm in general. I will say this, until one experiences something, one can not honestly comment on it. I've never riden on the Space Shuttle, but I have talked to it. I can tell you what that is like to talk to the shuttle, but I can't tell you what it is like to ride the shuttle. All I can do is marvle at what it might be like to take that ride. Unless you've talked to the shuttle you can marvle that I've talked to them. But it's as valid an illustration as I can come up with at the spare of the moment. I will also assume that you've never ridden the shuttle as well. I have talked to Jesus, I can tell you about that. I have taken a short ride with Jesus, I can tell you about that. All you can do is marvle at my talking to the space shuttle, riding on the space shuttle, my converstaion with Jesus and my short ride with Him. Does that make me better than you ... NO absolutely not, for we're all the same in Christ. I can however, share my expierence with you just as Paul shares his expierence with us in the books that he left us... The books we call the New Testament. I've not only marvle at Paul, but can understand 2co12. I understand the 'skolops' that he is refering to. You know that is the only time that 'skolops' is refered to in the NT. I hope you understand my illustration. I am your brother in Christ. Russ |
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3 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | Morant61 | 155688 | ||
Greetings Russ! There was no offense taken at all my friend! Allow me to play off of your shuttle illustration. There are several possibilities. 1) Someone could have ridden the shuttle and testified about it. 2) Someone could have thought they rode the shuttle and testified about it. 3) Someone could not have ridden the shuttle, but still testified about it. In the case of the last two options, the 'exerience' is a fraud and the 'testimony' is meaningless. This is why many on this forum have been saying that experience cannot trump Scripture. Scripture is an objective source of truth. It cannot err or lie. However, experience can be lied about, mistakenly understood, or real. :-) p.s. - You are quite correct. 2 Cor. 12:7 is the only time that the 'thorn' or 'skolops' is mentioned in the Bible. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155690 | ||
Greetings Tim: Just to let you know, My user id: kw5kw is an amateur radio call sign. Using amateur radio, I have indeed talked to the space shuttle. As a matter of fact, both the shuttle and I were using what we call a hand held unit that only transmits a maximum of 5 watts, but that was all that was necessary since it was line of sight. However, the truth is, I have indeed talked to the space shuttle. Not this last one, it has been several years ago now, but once is enough to make it true. Good tidings to you Tim, Russ |
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5 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | mark d seyler | 155692 | ||
Hi Russ, That's pretty cool! Did you know they would be in your line of sight, or was it a chance encounter? Mark |
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6 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155697 | ||
No, strictly computed and actually was scheduled into their flight plan that time. It was coordinated via AMSAT and Kieth Pugh, W5IU and Donna (forget her last name) N5WOE so that they students at one of our local elementary schools could gain some experience with both science and amateur radio. We did not get individual QSL cards, but we did get a nice write up in the Star-Telegram for the event. Check AMSAT.org for other such activities. Amateur radio has many satellites used for communications, and the shuttle (used to anyway) was routeinly used to give school students the expierence. And as for tracking, you can track almost any satellite anywhere anytime if you have the programs. I've let this area of my life lapse quite a bit, so I'm a bit rusty on the pages, but amsat.org should have the links necessary. So this expierence is just as real as it can be! Russ |
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7 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | mark d seyler | 155706 | ||
Hi Russ, That's pretty neat! I had no idea that NASA, the astronauts, and everyone involved in this whole billion dollar venture would organize and schedule around some school kids so they could say "I talked to the astronaut!", and maybe some of them go on lead the mission to Mars. I wonder how many there are like you, Russ, not who have talked to the space shuttle, but who log on to this forum, and occasionally participate, but feel like "everytime I do I get flamed." I've seen a couple of posts in the last couple of days from people who have indicated that they follow the forum, but don't join in. I checked the stats for this forum. Over 30,000 people have registered since its inception in 2001. If even 1 percent of those were current or occasional observers, thats a lot of people we don't get the benefit of hearing from. And a lot of people we won't receive the blessing of having ministered to. We need you here, Russ. We need all of our Christian brothers and sisters, because God made His Church in such a way that we are to build each other up. You really blessed me today, telling me of your shuttle experience. They took the time for you, and were patient and gracious, and you, and these children, carried something away that continues to bless you even today. But for me, it is a clear picture of God's command to us, to be Christ-like, to receive each other in the Lord, as we would receive Jesus Himself. Even if God has given me all knowledge, and a perfect understanding of scripture with application and footnotes (He hasn't, which you will quickly learn if you let me talk long enough :-) ), but let's say I am flying high in the skies, just like those shuttle astronauts, and here comes a small, ingnorant child just wanting to talk to me. How shall I respond? Shall I receive this child with love, and patience, and gentleness, knowing that I am in fact receiving Jesus, or do I reject and scorn, because I am too important, or am not willing to take the time, or because they should know better. I would say (IMO) anytime I leave someone feeling rejected, scorned, flamed, I have probibly failed as a minister of Christ, and we are all ministers of Christ, to the world, and to each other. I do not speak this against anyone on this forum, as all in all I find a great deal of love here, within this seemingly cold computer environment. On the flipside, however, it behooves us all, when we do feel rejected, etc, to maybe be a little thicker skinned, not so easily put off, and come back with Christ's ministry. Because I truly need to hear from you too. Not to condemn me, I assure you, I have that well covered ;-), but to exhort, and just plain love me, as I am also to love you. But we hear each other better when there is love, and when there are hard sayings to share. Jesus example in II Cor 5 was to not impute men's sins to them, when He was here in His ministry. That's a tough act to follow. When I feel wronged, can I just let it go? And one last word of encouragement for you, Russ, and for anyone else who might be tuned in. When on the forum, or in church, or home, or where ever, following your encounter with a brother or sister who leaves you thinking "what a jerk!", return to them in love, and find a common meeting place, and build a bridge, lest we become separated and alone, and not "fitly joined together." Love in Christ, Mark |
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8 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155707 | ||
Thanks, for you have really made me feel welcome. God be with you. Your Brother. Russ |
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