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1 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155659 | ||
question everything by scripture, that's what we are taught. However, having a near death expierence myself, I can be very understanding as I understand. I've been there. I share my expierences, and have been met with dis-belief and scorn as well. I understand the hurt that your are being felt by these haughty people who are puffed up on their own pride, for they haven't felt their 'skolops' in their side like I have. Peace be with you Bows44 and hopefully you'll beable to influence many with your testamony, for if we're not to tell of our testamony why are we to be witnesses to the greatest testamony of all, the gospel. And why this isn't found in scripture... "If the shoe fits, wear it." Your brother in Christ. |
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2 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155661 | ||
A bit more... I've been met with more dis-belief and scorn from church going, supposably Bible-reading Christians than I have met from unbelievers. Unbelivers listen, and want to understand. It helps them understand that there is indeed a God, that He is indeed very real and is there for US! Why can't so-called Christians, who are supposed to have knowledge of such things, understand? Could it be that Satan, while setting on their shoulder, whispers in their ear; "You don't believe that, here's scripture that says you shouldn't..." Could that be possible? I say it is. What I say is scriptural... check it out... test it for yourself... test everything. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. That Satan makes you think that he is of God, and his little whispers make the belivers dis-believe testamony. Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Satan will bend anyone's ear to some facts and away from others. Satan knows the scriptures and how to used them. He knows the hows and whys to point many away from the truths. Just enough away to make it look bad. So you must test everything for your own... Test what I'm typing. Know this test this: Jesus is the Son of God, who was born of a virgin, who lived as flesh on the earth, who died for our sins, shed His blood for the redemption and our salvation. An evil spirit can't write (say)((type)) that: 1Jo4:1-3 |
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3 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | Morant61 | 155663 | ||
Greetings Kw5kw! It could also by that these same individuals understand that Scripture is our only rule of faith and practice, not 'claimed' experiences. No one should 'scorn' you for having an experience. :-( But, just because someone claims to have had an experience does not make it necessarily 'real' or 'true'. In the case of 'near death' experiences, there is nothing in Scripture that 'rules' them out. So, I certainly believe that they are possible. However, there is also no way to verify a 'near death' experience. So, I don't see that they are very valuable as a witness. Unbelivers believe lots of things, but that doesn't make them true. :-) How many times have unbelievers watched the guy on the SciFi channel who supposedly contacts the dead? ;-) How many times have unbelievers listened to those who claimed that some alien spiritual master was channeling answers to questions through them. These were all claimed 'experiences', but we know from Scripture that they are false and evil. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155670 | ||
Greetings Brother Tim. I see that you're a pastor. How do you preach? Do you give illustrations? Do you solicit testamony from those in your congregration? Go they go like this? I was a disbeliver, I was lead to read the Bible, I'm saved. Thank God What led them to read the Holy Word of our LORD? Somebody had to witness to them, to bring them the grandest testamony of all times, the NEW Testament. My testamony is that God did save me. Jesus did indeed push me back, and that by testing not only what I say but how I say it by scripture, knowing 1JO4:1-4 when I say that Jesus is the Son of God in the Flesh, do they say that on these television shows that you mention on the SiFi? No that's all SiFi. Unbelivers are HUNGRY for something. I was starving. God came to me, I didn't go to Him, He knew I was hungry. He told me that I was His, that He loved me. I'm no longer hungry. The Holy Spirit dwells in me. He guides me. Just as the Bible says, it's true. When I go to church, my pastor gives a few samples of scripture, then he speaks a sermon. When I read Spurgeon, one scriputre is listed at the front by Book, chapter, verse. There are many others in there, but just not listed by book, chapter, verse just quoted. I feel, that if you are indeed a servant of the LORD GOD, then you will recognize my passages without me posting them all for you. I recognize them when I read them in my Spurgeon, I can look them up, I can test them. When I post, some of my posts are nothing but scripture, but would you preach a sermon from nothing but quotes out of the scriptures. I just think that people get a bit puffed up and hughty on these forums, thinking that every word is/should be a quote out of the holy Word. I know that GOD is a living God. That He speaks to us today. While the cannon of Scripture is sealed, His work is not done. Russ |
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5 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | Morant61 | 155671 | ||
Greetings Russ! Certainly, we are commanded to be witnesses. As I said earlier, I find no Scripture to support the position that we cannot share experiences. However, I also pointed out that experiences may or may not be true. Therefore, they are not authoritative. Scripture must be the judge. I have heard many 'testimonies' that were false. :-( As far as sermon with nothing but quotes from the Bible go, they would be better than much of what we hear preached nowdays! ;-) No one is suggesting that every word on this forum must be a Bible quote, but we do believe that every word should be Biblical since this is a Bible study forum. :-) I have been a part of this forum for a long time now and I have seen many bizare things posted as 'true' without any support from Scripture. As far as near death experiences go, I would never 'scorn' someone for claiming to have had one, but I don't personally find them particularly enlightening since I already know from Scripture that there is life after death. :-) Well, I have to run now! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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6 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155673 | ||
Thank you for the speedy reply brother Tim, and if I offended i surly apologize, for that was not my intent. I was 10-10ing... from 1Co 10:10 "And do not grumble..." After reading this forum for a while and seeing all of the post about not posting scripture, well, I am sorry, I had to post, and this was the first post for me here in some time. Seems that every time I post something here, I get flamed. Here I go 10-10ing again. Sorry, you just happened to answer. I humbly beg your forgiveness and that of the fourm in general. I will say this, until one experiences something, one can not honestly comment on it. I've never riden on the Space Shuttle, but I have talked to it. I can tell you what that is like to talk to the shuttle, but I can't tell you what it is like to ride the shuttle. All I can do is marvle at what it might be like to take that ride. Unless you've talked to the shuttle you can marvle that I've talked to them. But it's as valid an illustration as I can come up with at the spare of the moment. I will also assume that you've never ridden the shuttle as well. I have talked to Jesus, I can tell you about that. I have taken a short ride with Jesus, I can tell you about that. All you can do is marvle at my talking to the space shuttle, riding on the space shuttle, my converstaion with Jesus and my short ride with Him. Does that make me better than you ... NO absolutely not, for we're all the same in Christ. I can however, share my expierence with you just as Paul shares his expierence with us in the books that he left us... The books we call the New Testament. I've not only marvle at Paul, but can understand 2co12. I understand the 'skolops' that he is refering to. You know that is the only time that 'skolops' is refered to in the NT. I hope you understand my illustration. I am your brother in Christ. Russ |
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7 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | Morant61 | 155688 | ||
Greetings Russ! There was no offense taken at all my friend! Allow me to play off of your shuttle illustration. There are several possibilities. 1) Someone could have ridden the shuttle and testified about it. 2) Someone could have thought they rode the shuttle and testified about it. 3) Someone could not have ridden the shuttle, but still testified about it. In the case of the last two options, the 'exerience' is a fraud and the 'testimony' is meaningless. This is why many on this forum have been saying that experience cannot trump Scripture. Scripture is an objective source of truth. It cannot err or lie. However, experience can be lied about, mistakenly understood, or real. :-) p.s. - You are quite correct. 2 Cor. 12:7 is the only time that the 'thorn' or 'skolops' is mentioned in the Bible. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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8 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155690 | ||
Greetings Tim: Just to let you know, My user id: kw5kw is an amateur radio call sign. Using amateur radio, I have indeed talked to the space shuttle. As a matter of fact, both the shuttle and I were using what we call a hand held unit that only transmits a maximum of 5 watts, but that was all that was necessary since it was line of sight. However, the truth is, I have indeed talked to the space shuttle. Not this last one, it has been several years ago now, but once is enough to make it true. Good tidings to you Tim, Russ |
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9 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | mark d seyler | 155692 | ||
Hi Russ, That's pretty cool! Did you know they would be in your line of sight, or was it a chance encounter? Mark |
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10 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155697 | ||
No, strictly computed and actually was scheduled into their flight plan that time. It was coordinated via AMSAT and Kieth Pugh, W5IU and Donna (forget her last name) N5WOE so that they students at one of our local elementary schools could gain some experience with both science and amateur radio. We did not get individual QSL cards, but we did get a nice write up in the Star-Telegram for the event. Check AMSAT.org for other such activities. Amateur radio has many satellites used for communications, and the shuttle (used to anyway) was routeinly used to give school students the expierence. And as for tracking, you can track almost any satellite anywhere anytime if you have the programs. I've let this area of my life lapse quite a bit, so I'm a bit rusty on the pages, but amsat.org should have the links necessary. So this expierence is just as real as it can be! Russ |
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11 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | mark d seyler | 155706 | ||
Hi Russ, That's pretty neat! I had no idea that NASA, the astronauts, and everyone involved in this whole billion dollar venture would organize and schedule around some school kids so they could say "I talked to the astronaut!", and maybe some of them go on lead the mission to Mars. I wonder how many there are like you, Russ, not who have talked to the space shuttle, but who log on to this forum, and occasionally participate, but feel like "everytime I do I get flamed." I've seen a couple of posts in the last couple of days from people who have indicated that they follow the forum, but don't join in. I checked the stats for this forum. Over 30,000 people have registered since its inception in 2001. If even 1 percent of those were current or occasional observers, thats a lot of people we don't get the benefit of hearing from. And a lot of people we won't receive the blessing of having ministered to. We need you here, Russ. We need all of our Christian brothers and sisters, because God made His Church in such a way that we are to build each other up. You really blessed me today, telling me of your shuttle experience. They took the time for you, and were patient and gracious, and you, and these children, carried something away that continues to bless you even today. But for me, it is a clear picture of God's command to us, to be Christ-like, to receive each other in the Lord, as we would receive Jesus Himself. Even if God has given me all knowledge, and a perfect understanding of scripture with application and footnotes (He hasn't, which you will quickly learn if you let me talk long enough :-) ), but let's say I am flying high in the skies, just like those shuttle astronauts, and here comes a small, ingnorant child just wanting to talk to me. How shall I respond? Shall I receive this child with love, and patience, and gentleness, knowing that I am in fact receiving Jesus, or do I reject and scorn, because I am too important, or am not willing to take the time, or because they should know better. I would say (IMO) anytime I leave someone feeling rejected, scorned, flamed, I have probibly failed as a minister of Christ, and we are all ministers of Christ, to the world, and to each other. I do not speak this against anyone on this forum, as all in all I find a great deal of love here, within this seemingly cold computer environment. On the flipside, however, it behooves us all, when we do feel rejected, etc, to maybe be a little thicker skinned, not so easily put off, and come back with Christ's ministry. Because I truly need to hear from you too. Not to condemn me, I assure you, I have that well covered ;-), but to exhort, and just plain love me, as I am also to love you. But we hear each other better when there is love, and when there are hard sayings to share. Jesus example in II Cor 5 was to not impute men's sins to them, when He was here in His ministry. That's a tough act to follow. When I feel wronged, can I just let it go? And one last word of encouragement for you, Russ, and for anyone else who might be tuned in. When on the forum, or in church, or home, or where ever, following your encounter with a brother or sister who leaves you thinking "what a jerk!", return to them in love, and find a common meeting place, and build a bridge, lest we become separated and alone, and not "fitly joined together." Love in Christ, Mark |
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12 | At what moment do we go to heaven? | Eccl 12:7 | kw5kw | 155707 | ||
Thanks, for you have really made me feel welcome. God be with you. Your Brother. Russ |
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