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1 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | elder4yhwh | 232819 | ||
The very same scriptures you use supports my point (Sabbath Keeping) Jesus fulfilled the law that's why picking up sticks is not as strict during the appearing of Christ. Paul is stating to leave people alone(bother them) concerning meats, days etc. Just let that person be conviced in their own mind. And just because a person thinks the Sabbath should be observed I'm not going to beat them over the head and say "OH YOU'RE SO WRONG!" I just want to know where Jesus says it's no longer valid alot of people use those scriptures to quote Paul but they leave out Act 17:2; Acts 18:4; Acts 13th chapter hummmm. Now on the other hand every time Jesus healed someone on the Sabbath the Pharasees/Sadduess told him he was breaking the law because he was healing (to them that was work). Each time an healing took place and they accussed Him he let them know that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath because he is "Lord of the Sabbath" (Mark 2:27) Paul said that the commandment is holy as well as the law (Romans 7th Chapter) Paul states the need for the law.My question will always be, God gave 10 commandments and a person would point out the one that says "remember" is there anywhere where Jesus took that out if he fulfilled the law does that mean I can commit adultry?? because that's the one I want to pick out (I'm being sarcastic) I don't see where Jesus gave us authority to put any of them away. People say Paul, Paul, Paul but I'm looking for Jesus' point of view not Paul's... |
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2 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | sethknorr | 232845 | ||
PART 2 OF 2 Here are the 9 other commandments reiterated by both Jesus and another NT writer. Commandment 1 (Matthew 22:36-40 and 1 John 5:21) Commandment 2 (Revelation 2:14 and 1 John 5:21) Commandment 3 (Matthew 12:31 and 1 Timothy 6:1) Commandment 5 (Matthew 19:19 and Ephesians 6:2-3) Commandment 6 (Matthew 5:21-22 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 7 (Matthew 5:27-28 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 8 (Matthew 15:19-20 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 9 (Mark 7:22-23 and Romans 13:9) Commandment 10 (Mark 7:22-23 and Romans 13:9) This is not the case with the 4th commandment. After Jesus death on the cross, no where do we see Paul or any other writer in the New Testament commanding Sabbath observance like they did on these nine other commandments. When we come to the Sabbath we see the contrary. The fact is the 10 commandments is the old covenant which was abolished. But Nine of the commandments where reinstated into the new covenant, which is the law of Christ. Deuteronomy 9:9 "When I went up to the mountain to receive the tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant which the LORD had made with you, then I remained on the mountain forty days and nights; I neither ate bread nor drank water. Deuteronomy 4:13 "So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments ; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone. Then Paul makes clear that this covenant of the Ten Commandments were abolished, culminated with verse eleven “For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory.” 2 Corinthians 3:2-11 2You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. 4Such confidence we have through Christ toward God. 5Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, 6who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, 8how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? 9For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. 10For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. 11For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory. It is obvious that Jesus was not trying to keep the law of the Sabbath intact in the New Covenant. John 5:18 18For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God. In Christ, Seth Knorr |
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3 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | Searcher56 | 232846 | ||
God's day to you Seth Knorr, I hope one or both of these questions drives home my point. Where is the command to abolish the Sabbath, set forth in Exodus 20:8? ... or ... Where is it written that Sunday was the new day? NOW ... Do we ... you ... make Sunday holy, or is it a day where we spend part of it gathering together? Searcher |
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4 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | sethknorr | 232876 | ||
There are some Christians that believe that Sunday is the Sabbath. However, I do not, because that is found no where in the Bible. There are also no HOLY days that are to be observed as a law. These where just a shadow, and Christ fulfilled them all, including the Sabbath. (cf. Colossians 2:15-17) The point Paul makes is that it does not mater if you go to church on Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, or Saturday! (cf. Romans 14:1-12) If you do observe a day, it is between you and God. You are commanded to go to church, but not on a particular day. (cf. Hebrews 10:25) Most Christians go to church on Sunday, NOT because it is required to go that day, but because they want to go on the same day Jesus rose from the dead, to remember the atonement made for their sins. Is there evidence that the early church meet on Sunday? Sure! (cf. Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:1-2, and Rev. 1:10) Does that mean you have to attend church on Sunday? Absolutely not, as stated above you can attend church on any day you like. Just make sure you are not forsaking the assembling together. (cf. Hebrews 10:25) Secondly you should not judge someone for going to church on any particular day. (cf. Romans 14:1-12) Galatians 4:9-11 9But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? 10You observe days and months and seasons and years. 11I fear for you, that perhaps I have labored over you in vain. After reading Galatians 4:9-11 are you saying that Paul's statement is wrong, that the Bible is fallible?? Or how can you justify IGNORING Paul's statement and condemnation of the desire to continue observing days including the Sabbath? So once again, I showed you where SABBATH observance was abolished. If that is not enough for you, can you show me where in the New Testament it is stated, that we are COMMANDED to observe the Sabbath? Not inferences! The same way Paul specifically and clearly COMMANDED us to follow the other commandments, the law of Christ? Additionally once again we are not under the law! 2 Corinthians 3:2-11 (The Ten Commandments which was the old Covenant was abolished, and replaced with the new covenant) Romans 7:6 6But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter. Galatians 3:23-25 23But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. 24Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. 25But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. In Christ, Seth Knorr |
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5 | Sunday Sabbath or not? | Ex 20:8 | Morant61 | 232877 | ||
Greetings Seth! Well said! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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