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1 | image of God | Gen 1:26 | In the Andes | 53725 | ||
Are you saying that babies come out of the womb with sin in their lives? Maybe the scripture is silent on the subject because it's common sense. Paul said, death spread to all men because ALL SINNED. You'll have to prove to me 1st that a 1 year old child can commit sin. Looking over those scriptures you quoted, I cannot find where men are born sinners, I see where death spread to all men BECAUSE ALL SINNED. Paul is very clear that "where there is no law, sin is not held against man." vs 13 As far as God making exceptions, He is no respecter of persons. Let me give you another veiw point to add to your 3 main views. Paul was refering to a time in his life when he was not spiritually separated from God. And when he understood the commandment, the nature of his flesh which was passed down from Adam arose and took advantage of the commandment and killed him. Thereby teaching him that he needed a savior. Paul says in Rom 2:14-15 that those without the law are a law unto themselves. And their consciences bear witness, accusing or excusing them. Babies must of necessity have clean consciences. Or they would go straight to hell. All men will sin (because of the nature passed down from Adam) and thereby need a savior. I'm not disagreeing with you on that. I think it is a bit much to appl Rom 5 and eph 2 to babies. This is a subject that i've heard quite a bit. In the seventies it was called the age of accountability. I haven't heard much about it since then. |
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2 | image of God | Gen 1:26 | McGracer | 53727 | ||
In the Andes, In good humor (and good faith), let's banter this about a little bit: You wrote: "Paul said, death spread to all men because ALL SINNED." Sure all sin - but why? ALL sin because ALL are sinners. You don't become a sinner when you first sin. You sin BECAUSE you are ALREADY a sinner. It is because of Adam that we are sinners, not because of our own acts. Our own sinful acts just confirm to us what we ALREADY are. It is your birth that determines what you are, not your actions. I don't become a saint when I commit my first righteous act. I do righteous acts BECAUSE Christ is in me doing them - my new birth has already made me a saint. You wrote: "Paul is very clear that "where there is no law, sin is not held against man." vs 13" He is saying the before Mt. Sinai, committed sins where not taken into account. But don't miss verse 14 - NEVERTHELESS, sin still reigned. People still died and went to hell because they were born separated from God. Only those who had faith in God were counted as righteous and when to heaven. You wrote: "Babies must of necessity have clean consciences. Or they would go straight to hell. All men will sin (because of the nature passed down from Adam) and thereby need a savior. I'm not disagreeing with you on that." So, would you agree that babies have Adam's sinful nature passed on to each and every one? If not, how do you get around it? If so, how would God allow any creature (baby or not) to go to heaven with a sinful nature in it? Again, I don't believe that babies go to hell. I believe that there is an age of accountability. I just cannot conclusively prove it from scripture. McGracer |
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